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Interested, but it'd have to be somewhere between thursday around 4-ish CST (PM. 1600 hours on 24 hour time) and sunday night.

At least angry drivers are actually in a hurry.  Which is more than I can say for these modern clods.

Meh. If you're in a hurry, you're already late and there's no point rushing. *putter putter*

... playing with spirecraft? Because micro-raids with spire jumpships and, say, spire starships (the 1 cap beam thingies that are researchable) and maybe some heavy bombers are really good for taking out, well. Everything. Or at least everything that doesn't move. And some things that do if you're willing to micro it that much.

Jumpships are kinda' ridiculously awesome, is what I'm saying.

... that's kinda', well. Wrong?

There's a non-negligible amount of religious people -- I've met more than a handful -- that specifically do good things because it's the right thing to do, with or without the additional metaphysical burden. Some even recognize that, yes, doing good deeds specifically because you're after salvation is selfish and can (will) bar your way to <whatever counts as Good End>. With christianity, th'goal isn't to reach heaven, it's to walk with (as) Jesus -- to imitate the critter's ways. Heaven's an necessary consequence of that, but if it's what you're after, you're doing it wrong. You've got similar concepts with a number of religions, major and otherwise.

And... yeah. Not 'Good without interest', or at least very bloody rarely. It's just 'good because of good', 'good because of feels', or 'good because of conditioning'.

... anyway. European politics thread probably not right place for discussion.

It's one of those where I'm not going to say the police were obviously in the wrong, but I seriously question why things need to be handled the way they were.  What was the nature of this "domestic disturbance"?  Was he posing an immediate danger to anyone?  I've read two articles about this already, and my impression is he just had himself locked in a room and wasn't cooperating.

The guy had brandished on non-police officers* (so immediate danger, yes), and was apparently somewhat actively firing on the police both before (through the door when the police identified themselves) and after they gassed the room. Even if the fellow wasn't hitting the cops with bullets, if someone's firing... even if they're missing, they are most definitely an immediate danger to everyone in the immediate vicinity. Walls don't always stop bullets and ricochets are a thing, and if someone's firing they almost certainly need to be stopped before a shot flies into someone.

It almost certainly could have been handled better, though. Pumping gas into the place of someone obviously hostile and agitated in the hope that it'd cause the guy to surrender was just... just goddamn stupid. It'd be interesting to know what the negotiations amounted to, too, though I imagine the public will never find out.

*The arkansas piece. Domestic disturbance in question was the old fellow pointing a weapon at people.

It definitely is a product thereof. S'not the only food I've heard of like that, really (collard greens, goddamn -- most of the family loves the smell but it's just about enough to run me out of a house, and there's a couple foods I love the smell of that just about runs my mother off). F'me... I ate enough fish early on, but I never really liked the taste and somewhere around 7-8 years old I just stopped eating seafood in general. Cue many moons later and now a strong enough seafood stench smell can actually make me nauseous. Takes more than your average seafood restaurant (which just throws me off my appetite a little), and non-fish (shrimp/crab/etc.) is a bit worse than most fish, but yeah. That concentrated sardine smell was enough to physically give me a minor headache. Terrible, terrible.

Nearly on the level of fermented beans, t'be honest. While I've never smelled, say, natto, I have smelled frozen beans that went to rot when a freezer went out, and I can say with a fair amount of confidence that you'd have about as much trouble getting me to willingly put that stuff in me as you'd have getting me to willingly put a bullet in me. Maybe less. Some fates are worse than death/maiming.

Secondly, no. No one wants to be punched in the gut when they get shot in a video game, nor do they want to smell the gore-streaked trenches of WW1 or taste the air in the sewer level.

... not no one. There's already some (crude) feedback systems around for some games, iirc, and there's definitely a non-negligible minority that would be into something like that, just like there's people that like slamming into each other on a ball field. Some people just really like full contact. Plus there's a lot of tactile feedback beyond pain that would be hella' impressive. Wind, physical textures, touch puzzles, etc., so forth, so on. And that's without getting into any salacious uses thereof (they're already working on that!).

As for the smell... yeah, there's going to be folks that want that, too. Probably even moreso than pain/etc. feedback. It would be an incredible increase in immersion -- humans are seriously tied into scent when it comes to some things -- and there's definitely people that would be into it, even the nastier stuff.

Grandparent decided to have sardines for dinner.

Oh gods.

The smell.

I think. I think I had gone my life without actually being subjected to that, before. And now. Now it has blanketed about half the house. It is not a happy smell. It is a sad smell.