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Well. You've basically got the internet or TV. Possibly varying forms of print media. Then maybe gossip.

There's nothing inherently unethical about it, and I say this because you're acting like these people are brainwashed or evil. It's a counter-espionage and intelligence organization that deals with both overseas and domestic affairs.

Unethical means unethical, not evil (though the latter is generally the former), and it's incredibly easy to commit unethical acts without being brainwashed or evil -- alway's line of justification is a really bloody obvious example of how it happens, as is the fact that pretty grievous violations of what once was at least a facsimile of a right to privacy is something you're willing to write off as "counter-espionage and intelligence that deals with overseas and domestic affairs". The country in general, and definitely the organizations in question, consider their unethical acts to have a sufficient practical payoff to justify those acts on a pragmatic basis, but that does not somehow magically make those acts ethical action.

And as SG puts it, yes. Not all action performed by these groups are unethical, but we've been finding that quite a bit is. And if a person's willing to perform those unethical actions because the pay (directly monetary or otherwise) is good, well. That says most of what needs to be said on that subject.

The NSA hasn't done anything that wasn't implied or what I deem morally dubious.

... as you might imagine, there's a fair number of people that would disagree with you at this point.

"Someone else will commit the immoral act if I don't, so it's acceptable for me to commit that act."

That. Doesn't work

Why the people in charge of loading the trailer didn't notice any of this, I don't know, but now we're responsible for getting it all taken care of.

You maaaay have already noticed the answer to your inquiry >_>

Heh. I just endeavor to use names and titles -- explicit identifiers in general, really -- about as close to as little as humanly possible as I can manage, when actually talking to people. It's generally quite impressively little. Much easier to largely forgo doing such in person than online.

I just... sorta' don't like names, I guess. As a general thing. They're convenient but somehow... interfering? A lot of the time.

It's hard for me to attach much more meaning to a proper name than 'net aliases or just random number strings, some days.

I certainly don't call any professors by their first name, even when I'm insulting them behind their backs.  They aren't exactly prestigious.  I don't call my high school teachers by their first names, either.

... most of my college profs (well, for the bachelors studies anyway) actually asked that and preferred it for their students to call them by their first name

Few of m'high school teachers, too. For what it's worth.

Using unlabled sarcasm on the internet should be punishable by death.

Getting closer to something sane. As always, I recommend georgia as the official sarcasm font.

Third, she is looking forward to becoming pregnant because, in addition to bringing a little bundle of joy into the world, she will plenty of downtime to play Skyrim since she would no longer risk losing teaching time due to addiction.

There... there may be a slight problem with this line of reasoning. Downtime and kids, especially young ones, don't seem to mix too well...

... though I guess she knows how to manage her time appropriately and actually will manage a net gaming time increase. That'd be a hella' impressive feat!