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I mean, I'd probably fall to putting it simply: Killing someone in self-defense downgrades it some lesser form of manslaughter, probably involving some form of community service and mandatory therapy, depending of the circumstances (the shit that brought this up might get that, but also reckless endangerment and a smattering of other things related to illegal vigilantism, ferex).

There's other forms of relatively no-fault killing on the books that still involve consequences -- look to those and use them. Self defense should mitigate sentencing, not remove any and all legal consequence for killing someone. Too fucking easy to abuse, otherwise, as we've seen way too goddamn much in the US.

Pretty much. There's niche cases where something similar comes up, but they don't appear to apply here.

If there's anything related to this that goes through the legal system, at this point, it'll be for charges the prosecutors didn't pursue or civil suits.

The prosecution was both hamstrung by the judge and notably bloody incompetent, if not outright intentionally throwing the case. US judicial system being what it is, neither of those is particularly unusual for judges (who are often even worse than this one) or prosecutors (who so often don't even need to find their own ass that they forget how to use a flashlight and a map when they do).

Goddamn reprehensible and a condemnation of our judicial system, but not unusual

Racism did have bearing, though? The bits related to it was misplayed by the incredibly shitty prosecution (there's stuff the killer could have easily been hit with, like curfew violation, that they didn't even bother trying, just as one example of their incompetence) and thrown out by the blatantly biased judge. The killer was a white supremacist with ties to a white nationalist terrorist organization, the protest he went to armed and intent on killing people was happening due to issues involving racism related shit.

Nevermind the more tangential aspects (if the killer had been black or middle eastern, it's fairly likely they wouldn't have even survived to reach court, nevermind seen an acquittal if he had been chummy with ISIS instead of the proud boys), there was things related to it directly involved that just got bungled.

Thing was, indeed, a shitshow, though -- if nothing else absolutely everyone I've seen commenting on it on any side of the political spectrum agrees with that one. Often for different reasons, but bloody no one seems to think that trail was anything but a farce.

It'll have hypnotoad, so sure.

Less flippantly, the future is always more weird and strange than the present to the folks in the present, and that's a pattern that has repeated itself since prehistory. No reason to believe that'll be any different this time around, one way or another.

You already have an extremely long wait time for rental property, and your city/town just said that nobody can buy houses to convert into rentals, unless they live in them.  Your city made it worse!

They only made it worse if the previous situation was actually seeing things done usefully beforehand... which is frankly unlikely, and explicitly wasn't happening in the situation mart just described. We've seen a few cases stateside where local governance did something along those lines, and big name real estate jackasses made the astounding threat of saying they wouldn't be building the housing they were... already not building and had no plans to build.

So, y'know. Telling predatory speculators and rental mogals to fuck off when they're already doing nothing useful to the general population probably isn't actually hurting anyone (that's not some billionaire making bank off immiserating your local population, anyway)

That's generally the big part, yeah. There's a nominal payment from the court, but it's very far from sustainable -- florida, ferex, is 15 bucks per day, which doubles to all of thirty after a few days. Well below minimum wage if they're in deliberation for very long, in other words. Slots roughly into the same kind of civic functioning as not having voting being a holiday, i.e. going out of its way to shit on anyone not wealthy enough to drop work for a while.

What's the most sinful spice?

Cinnamon.

Y'know, I'm pretty sure I've heard more from Screamin' Jay Hawkins*, but some electro blues mix on youtube led me to a remix of Little Demon which led me to the original, and the conclusion I probably need to get more of this guy's music in my life

*Fake edit: Right, because he's the I Put A Spell On You guy, now that I check. That would do it.

actual e: It do hit me some times how much the childhood can influence tastes, tho'. Like, I was raised on the stateside rock n roll playing in the 90s, classical, blues/R&B, and, like... video game music, circa NES-PSX era. Add in a dash of filial duty to swing due to a great grandparent being a swing band drummer, and you got my formative years.

Nowadays, while I listen to basically everything, I can really see how the interplay between those led me to enjoying things like glitch hop, electroswing, sea shanties, and so on. The crunchy, complicated high energy stuff, mixed in really singable things, with the blues/r&b influence in particular drawing me towards remixes and covers. I can see how what I grew up on developed into finding the music I listen to most to be really comfy. It's a neat observation.

E2: Bounce Town - SoDown --  too damn fun