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General Discussion / Re: [ヽ(°ヮ。)ノ] HEADPANTS RETURNS! (Happy Thread)
« on: May 04, 2013, 02:44:48 am »
... you have a flying rat as a pet. That's... neat? Howzzat work out? I mean, is it like with cats always getting under your feet, only this time you're walking around and suddenly it slams into the side of your head, flying monkey sideswipe style?

Cute little buggers, though, at least in picture. Dunno about in person when they're presumably crapping (mad flyby style, it's like an attack pigeon for your own home!) in your hair/teacup.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: AI War: Fleet Command, Need more AI fodder
« on: May 03, 2013, 10:40:19 pm »
Yeeaaah... it escalated pretty quickly after I claim jumped Umi's claim jump of Tuesday. Fun times, though! Almost managed that galaxy nuke... probably would have, if our economy didn't keep getting superfluously nuked during the building process, heh.

Second game (E: That didn't abort in the first few minutes, anyway) was much more sane :P

I'm good for another round tomorrow or sunday, if one pops up. Less so come monday, but until then, am good. Thanks again for hosting, Yg!

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 03, 2013, 12:18:38 pm »
Quote from: Flying Dice on May 03, 2013, 12:10:38 pm
Didn't Aku show up back in Jack's original time, though? Unless there's even more serious time-fuckery going on behind the scenes...


Idea! The villains all team up to summon Aku, who kills the PPG and wrecks the present. Dr. Utonium builds a time machine, intending to go back before the summoning and warn his daughters, but something goes wrong and he is sent into the distant past. Once there, he gradually assimilates, gaining martial ability to match his scientific talent. Eventually Aku manages to track him down and travel back, invading the past, at which point Samurai Jack begins. Jack/Utonium isn't just trying to kill Aku to free human civilization, he's seeking revenge for his daughters.
Which kinda' bugger's Jack's in-series background right to blazes. Which... sure? That's what the AU tag is for, after all.

Jack being U's many-times-great grandfatheruncle or something might fit, though. Assuming Aku left any of Jack's kin around to breed. Honestly, what you'd probably end up dealing with is some kind of multiversal shenanigans, not time travel. And then probably some kind of freakish Utonium/Jack selfcest pairing.

Because if there's anything fanfiction has taught me, it's that multiverse interaction inevitably leads to extremely convoluted acts of incest. Thanks, Bader! You bastard.

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Other Games / Re: Magicmaker
« on: May 03, 2013, 01:08:11 am »
Yeah... you can clear everything currently in the game out pretty easy with quite suboptimal kit, and there's a whole swath of stuff weaker than silk/homing cheese that can still lay waste to everything (6k+ damage AoE DoTs, that whole invincibility pinball, etc., so forth, so on).

It's going to be interesting to see how things go going forward with the game's development, given how easily the game gets broke open already :P

Imagine being able to put out 3 or so volleys of those crystalsilk bombs out in the span of less than a second. You can already put out a 4 material one and a weaker crystalsilk+dig more or less simultaneously, heh.

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'Course, part of the fun is experimenting with the spells, not just clearing everything out. I did manage to wreck my way through initially with a dot bomb (AoE/poison/poison/alchemist), but have already spent more time than it took to do that just screwing around with spells. The question stops being "Do I have to change this spell to win" and starts becoming "Can I change this spell and still win"... and then seeing just how much fits in that latter category, heh. That the game's still pretty enjoyable while experimenting is a good sign, methinks.

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: May 02, 2013, 11:11:15 pm »
Optical mouse. Everything nonreflective becomes somewhere to use the mouse (I've laying an encyclopedia of philosophy beside me on the bed and using that for a while now.). Honestly, I'd rather be using my leg as a mousepad than a touchpad.

... and have. Notable performance improvement! Seriously one of the most wondrous things about optical mice. They're like magic when you lived through most of the lifetime of regular ball mouse usage. Even the wall is my mousepad, ahahahaha!

But yeah, s'fairly impressive to actually be winning games (even if it's just pub games) with a touchpad. Have a hat tip, Kag. *tips*

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 02, 2013, 11:06:20 pm »
Quote from: Devling on May 02, 2013, 10:54:34 pm
Oh shit poetry!  :o
No... no. Well, not intentionally, anyway. That was prose, damnit. Just... somewhat florid prose. Titch purple. I don't know if English had a word for the sensation, so I had to be descriptive in a roundabout way. Also somewhat sleepy and I get less concise when that happens.

Quote from: Scelly9 on May 02, 2013, 11:04:12 pm
The average person spends 2 weeks in their lifetime kissing. 0.o
Kissing what?

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: May 02, 2013, 10:52:32 pm »
... you're actually insane enough to play DotA with a touchpad? Why would you inflict that suffering upon yourself?

USB mice are pretty cheap (One I'm plugging into my laptop was about eight bucks USD, has lasted better than six months, so far, in good condition)...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 02, 2013, 10:24:35 pm »
Glancing at some of the earlier note entries I've got on this computer. Kinda' wish I remembered what I was thinking when I wrote this one:
Quote from: 10/9/2012
Fold-out magic bus not wanting to be folded out. It is partially powered by lightning archons, ehehehehe.
Which is the entirety of the note. I typed this out to be remembered, for some reason.

It's kind of a weird feeling going back and reading half-thought notes like that, that have no context. It's like, I'unno. Walking into an inspiration abattoir or something. Pieces of concept formulation hanging from hooks along the walls, dripping half-hearted interest from forgotten wounds. Here, a sentence leg. There, a phrase arm. Scattered about, the organs of a paragraph. A murderer has habituated this place, and its name is The Death of Memory.

It's probably an Abyssal Exalt.

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Other Games / Re: Magicmaker
« on: May 02, 2013, 07:41:34 pm »
Quote from: Furtuka on May 02, 2013, 07:29:55 pm
Actually its size increase becomes really valuable if you combine it with a chaos butterfly.
... which is very pretty, but fairly useless :P

For damage, anyway. The way optic splits damage up and needs to focus makes it a pretty terrible candidate for chaos butterfly, unfortunately :-\ You almost never manage to get the full hit on something and are pretty much always going to be lagging behind what a non-beam butterfly shot is going to do. Somewhat more likely to do that fractional damage, but... it's pretty weak.

One fairly consistent chaos butterfly mix I've found is butterfly/spider silk/crystal ball/dig. Does pretty alright damage and still manages to land quite a lot of its hits. It's also quite pretty, with you firing out these filaments of death all over the place :P

Shame wands max at four, though. Adding pierce to that would murderize everything. Pierce instead of dig is pretty violent too, providing no terrain's around to interrupt the shot.

And yeah, no S rank. Only goes up to A. Might change in the future, but it doesn't look like it will going by the way the game's currently designed. A rank's probably enough, heh.

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Other Games / Re: Magicmaker
« on: May 02, 2013, 07:24:13 pm »
A rank optic from doctorate maps, yeah. A rank can only show up on master and doctorate levels, if you didn't notice the thing saying that, and they're still pretty rare on master. Don't believe any of the levels are biased toward particular material types, though.

I think I've bought a couple from the shop, too. Always check that place after a map run, once you've got some gold to spend. It's usually got at least one A or B rank material to offer. 500 gold a pop, but after a while (and especially if you clear out your inventory of C-F rank materials occasionally) you get so much it doesn't really matter if you're spending a couple thousand every other map or whatever.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: May 02, 2013, 05:16:02 pm »
Quote from: Vector on May 02, 2013, 05:00:51 pm
Not normal != broken.
And I'm not entirely sure being broken is a necessarily bad thing, honestly. Usually, yes, but sometimes you break in the right ways and it's... not that bad? Net positive? I consider myself broken (I seem mostly incapable of feeling anger or pride at this point, ferex, and I can't really seem to be able to feel spite/petty jealousy.) but I'm kinda' glad I'm missing (most of) the pieces I am. Causes some societal friction, but... eh.

And yeah, feels for folks. Dunno if there's anything I could offer beyond that. Worst I've got is a couple decades of bigot-induced isolation and what's appeared to be genetic depression (which, don't get me wrong, has involved hallucinations and pretty miserable times and whatnot, but generally wasn't really explicitly inflicted upon me. More of a passive thing.). Few (thankfully short term) psychotic breaks during the youth and generally really wonky social skills, but I haven't really felt all that bad for a good four or five years, now, especially compared to back then. Still displaying most of the physiological symptoms of depression (all tired, all the time), but mostly able to cope at this point, and getting better. Slowly.

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for "assumptions about relations" psych test
« on: May 02, 2013, 04:50:40 pm »
What does love have to do with being a soulmate, cats? Presumably soulmates can be in love (assuming soulmates exist at all), but so can people that aren't soulmates. You don't have to be a person's soulmate to be in love with them. Saying, "It's a given" is one of the really basic ways of saying, 'I'm making an assumption here', yeah. Or, more precisely, making the statement that you feel (rightly or otherwise) that the assumption is implicit. But a couple being in love quite definitely doesn't imply that the pair are soulmates (unless everyone potentially has several thousand/tens of thousands/millions of soulmates, which would make it a rather strange thing.), and whether R & M are, is not stated.

If robin was to be imprisoned for life, that would have been akin to being imprisoned for life, not akin to death. By your separation bit, permanent separation is the only means of separating true love (whatever the blazes that is, which is completely unmentioned in the story), of which death would be (barring afterlife, anyway!) and imprisonment might be a method of occurring, depending on how the sentence was enacted. There's no guarantee (again, the story doesn't say) that Marion would be forever separated from Robin if he was permanently imprisoned, though. Visitation is a thing.

Regardless, if Robin's actions had justly earned life or execution (though the method of justly earning such would be tricky), I'm not exactly sure I'd call it coercion of Marion to execute his sentence, if there was any coercion occurring at all. I'm not really sure what just punishment looks like from the direction of the one being punished for wrongful action. Perhaps coercion of a sort, but a rather odd sort.

Though, as a sorta' aside... I don't think the test is necessarily a 'fallacy' (nevermind that that's something rather different, methinks). It just might not have been testing what you were assuming it was testing :P

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for "assumptions about relations" psych test
« on: May 02, 2013, 04:16:01 pm »
I'd... really rather not, and was mostly aiming that at the one I quoted.

That said, one fairly obvious one you seem to be making is that Marion had no choice besides negotiating for R & J's presumably illegal release. As others have noted, the moral and correct choice (barring extenuating circumstances) given just imprisonment would have been for her to let R & J serve their time.

And, with the information given by the original formulation, we... don't know. If there was a second option, or a third, or any number of other options. We don't know whether negotiating with the sheriff was the only means of releasing R & J.

We also don't know if there was any coercion involved whatsoever. It wasn't explicitly stated, and there's not really enough material in the original formulation to draw any meaningful conclusions about that.

Even the last post... we have no reason to think soul-mates are involved at all, or that Marion was appealing to the sheriff's emotions (she was pleading based on her love for R, but she could have been making an aesthetic appeal to the nature of love, just as a counterexample to an emotive base). Before that, you made the assumption that the sheriff was intending to execute (no mention whatsoever of that) or permanently imprison Robin (we don't know that, it could have been an overnight stay for all what we're given tells us), as well as the assumption that Marion "truly didn't want it" (we don't know that, the story doesn't say).

There's probably more such examples going further back, yeah? The story is very, very detail sparse and lacks quite a bit of information. It's actually another fairly neat thing about it, thinking on it, as it's almost more of a test to see what assumptions are brought to the table and how the blanks are filled in than anything else.

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Other Games / Re: Magicmaker
« on: May 02, 2013, 04:03:14 pm »
Quote from: DarkDXZ on May 02, 2013, 03:50:19 pm
Someone matter to share the pinball save? (unless that's forbidden for some reason that I'm not aware of)
Also, I'm using Sublime Text 2.
I didn't see anything forbidding it, but if it's forbidden and someone notices, PM me or note it in the thread and I'll remove it. Any case, I think this is a pinball save for your perusal.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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General Discussion / Re: Looking for "assumptions about relations" psych test
« on: May 02, 2013, 03:59:41 pm »
Quote from: Cecilff2 on May 02, 2013, 03:42:07 pm
Point out the part of it where it says the sheriff of rottingham captured criminals.
It doesn't say he did or didn't, actually, in the original formulation shown in the thread. The situation changes notably depending on if the imprisoned did or did not break just law. Most seem to be partially defaulting to the character's storied background, and those that aren't are mostly being pretty explicit about it.

In the Robin Hood story, at least, R & J were definitely thieves and highwaymen, and in all likelihood murderers (goes pretty much hand in hand with highwaymen during that time period, iirc.). Possibly trying to work against a corrupt regime in the process, yes, but that wouldn't change that their actions had earned them jail time and possibly execution.

Now, with a blank-slate no-assumptions scenario... you basically can't say anything at all, beyond Robin being an abusive ass. The sheriff could have been acting normally under the strictures of the society (maybe random imprisonment is just something they do, or something R & J actively signed up for) and prostitution a normal method of posting bail, just as an example. Some context is needed to really get anything out of the scenario, and the original formulation doesn't really give folks room to do anything but bring their own assumptions to the table.

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