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Izzat counting the prison ones that were basically lied about for a while, too? From what I remember, while there has been gains in that area in the states, it's not nearly as large as people were crowing about for a while, because the rape statistics in relation to the penal system were being ignored/massively underreported.

Need to find the steampunk ones, then. They come with power armor occasionally. Don't need to bend over for those. Or just kick really, really hard. If you need something sharp to decapitate midgets you're not trying hard enough. Golf clubs work, too! Or do magicy things. S'actually a pretty good idea in one game I've played to hit enemy halflings with a size increasin' spell if you've got it, 'cause that cuts out some of their natural abilities.

... but yeah, I don't mind a couple halfling riffs. Darksun and Tales of Maj'Eyal, mostly, so far. Cannibals and warmongering imperialist slavers that bugger everything up, respectively. _{seriously though it's just hilarious the little damned midgets are basically the root cause of every single cockup in Maj'Eyal fluff}

But yeah, shadow magic has halflings you can murder wit'yer orcs.

Ramens were my example because they're extremely cheap. At 2 meals a day, you can go for 1.50$ (75cents for the big bowl of ramen +water, but well), and I'm not even sure that's the cheapest (though it's probably here).
While the concept is interesting, it's not really because of his price (but that helps).

And... yeah, I'd be wondering where you're at, or if you're using the fancier ramen. Ramen here's about a dime for a pack of the cheap stuff (bit more nowadays, but it's still like $0.12 USD, and a pack is two servings) if you buy it alone and less if you get it in bulk. Water... again, cut out that dime and 60 cent is about 3/4ths of a gallon of water (which runs upper 70s to lower 90s for a gallon of bottled stuff. Tap's cheaper. Looking at about five cent a cup, or another dime added onto the ramen.), which would be enough water for about six packs of ramen if I'm running the numbers right (16 cups/gallon, 2 cups/ramen, 3/4th 8 = 6). 75 cent counting just water and ramen would be something like a 350% increase from what's normal where I'm at. Cooking portion eats up a bit more (though looking into it, not exactly much*). 75 cent would be more in line if you're throwing more stuff in there or using the more expensive stuff, but just ramen and water is considerably less, at least where I'm at.

Maybe if you added in transportation cost, but it's pretty easy to mitigate that into what amounts to nonexistence with non-perishables. Just get a year or so's worth of ramen in one go, or an amount equal to however much the particular foodstuff you're after can stand being stored.

... I say again. You can eat considerably better and considerably more than just ramen or whatever a 2-3 buck option at a fastfood joint (restaurants will cost you more than cooking will pretty much everywhere.) will offer at less than five bucks a day. I average around $80 a month feeding just myself (and that's with plenty of necessary stuff included -- sweets, chips, occasional soda, whatever), and we're talking pasta (Mac and cheese currently running at ~58 cents a 7.25g box [~8 cent/gram), or ramen if wanted. Bag of pasta's running ~7.5 cent/gram.) rice (3 cent/gram, or about two-three bucks for a two pound bag.), and potatoes (~3 bucks for a big box of instant mashed that'll last for most of a month, and we're not talking small servings.), with cheese and a bit of meat, varying sauces and seasonings, vitamin supplement and a dabbling of junk food.

With the cheese, meat, and etcs. spread out over many meals ($6 bag of chicken, ferex, will tend to last maybe two weeks, sometimes more, so you're looking at something like 40 cent of chicken per day on average. Usually less, honestly.), it comes out to somewhere between one and two bucks per meal, and we're talking a bowl of food that'll put me into a minor stupor if I eat all of it (i.e. three to four servings worth of food per cooking).

Maybe I'm just in a pretty good area for food, I'unno. Having seen other people shop for food, I suspect greatly it's a lot more of people having no goddamn idea how to power shop for comestibles than anything else. Seriously. Price per weight is your golden measure. If they're not nice enough to provide it on the sticker (and sometimes it's a good idea to doublecheck anyway), divide the price by the weight and find out. Find the equilibrium point between cost and quality. I've found it to be pretty bloody low. Saying again: If it's getting over 10-15 cent per ounce or gram (adjust upwards a bit for things like meat and cheese, but you're still looking at <30 cent/weight, usually less than 25), you're probably getting ripped off to some degree. If you're actually smart and you buy in bulk (note, none of this is bulk prices. Those can get even lower, but you're limited in what you can buy that way.). it gets even cheaper by weight. Friend of mine does something like a month worth of pea soup for something like five bucks, iirc, as an example. We're talking a solid sized bowl of soup for ~16 cent a day, and then you can throw in other stuff to improve/expand the experience. Vitamin supplements do help, but a daily runs something like 5 cent a day (last time I got some, it was running ~12 bucks for a 200 or so tablet container [6 cent/pill], but I was getting something a little more expensive for reasons unrelated to price) which is a really negligible increase.

I will give that it can get more expensive in cities, though. Priced a bit last time I was down in Tampa, lot of stuff looked to be a good 50-100% increase in price/weight compared to a equitable store in the area I'm normally in. Which still puts you at something like 3-4 bucks for a very, very solid meal, since the store I managed to ogle was one that normally overcharges on stuff like that.

As for effort. You do have to actually read the price stickers, maybe check out some of the smaller food selling joints in your area, only buy certain things from certain places, and run a little math in your head (or bring a calculator, whatever). But it's really, really not that effort intensive, and a vitamin supplement will cover a lot of potential malnutrition issues (as will just having a more varied diet than I normally eat, which seriously doesn't increase the price by much. Less grains or meat, more vegetables. Not a big thing.). Hell, maybe two or three. Stuff's cheap. But yeah. You get used to shopping like that pretty quickly, and it's not some kind of arcane gustatory obstacle course. Buy as cheap as you can manage to stomach (and a few simple seasonings and additions can extend that list pretty low). That's really all there is to it.

Trolls man. That sort of troll came from Warcraft-before-WoW. Back when they were pretty decent RTS games. Especially if you consider WC3's custom map things. Cept they were green then, but... whatever. Physiology remained the same. It's a pretty distinctive style, honestly.

Well, any classed monster can potentially have them, from what I recall. The player has access to several. Swallow, death blow, I think one of the chronomancy talents, probably some other stuff. Usually are a chance of instakill if you're below an HP threshold sort of thing. There's also some stuff that checks instadeath immunity despite not being an instakill. Stone touch did that at one point, ferex. Think it still does.

Nerguffle. Five bucks a meal isn't fairly cheap. Been getting by for about a buck, buck fifty (with a vitamin supplement included, mind) for... years, now. And we're not talking just ramen or whatever. Grain base, bit of meat, could have vegetables if I were inclined. Seasoning, usually some extra cheese or suchlike.

What would interest me would be cost by weight. If it can get under a dime/oz then it's actually in the fairly cheap range and my inner scrooge is interested. Much more than that and it's getting into the untenable range for anything that's not seasoning or garnish or something.

Quote from: Frumple on March 14, 2013, 11:28:22 am

But yeah, I just use Opera's built in RSS feed thingy. I thought google reader was its book thing, not some sort of RSS feed. Didn't even know google reader existed.

Well, it's probably kinda gonna suck when you next change your computer.

Export feed list -> Email -> Import feed list

Do probably need to start doing that occasionally, though.