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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: February 12, 2013, 08:45:07 pm »
Hear hear. If we're not making planets, nevermind saving one, by that point, we have failed as a species and it's time to give up so something else can get a go at things.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 12, 2013, 07:11:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/_floridaman

Seriously, wtf is wrong with Florida?
Haven't I already said this like a dozen times? It's too goddamn hot and there's too many drugs in this state. That's what's wrong with Florida.

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What always leave me puzzled is whether they're doing R34 just to be different/lulzy....or if someone out there truly gets sexual stimulation from that kind of juxtaposition. Either way, it's beyond what I want to look at. Ever.
It's pretty certainly both, sometimes at the same time, sometimes not. Guro is a surprisingly prolific genre, enough so that even avoiding it like the plague I still run into it. I can sorta' grok the triggers it's supposed to be flipping (there seems to be a definite aesthetic to a lot of it, and it's actually somewhat coherent), but those triggers are triggers I lack. S'like vore. I grok vore, I understand the appeal, it just doesn't appeal t'me.

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Hrm. Toribash, maybe? It's a bit more hands on than you're looking for, but more like what you're describing than your average fighting game.

Other than that and what's already mentioned... Ogre Battle comes sorta' close. There's probably more stuff out there, just... small and hard to find. And I haven't found it, m'self.

E:For whatever reason (probably half of it is that it's harder to program...), that sort of set-it-up-and-let-it-run aesthetic is pretty rare outside of tower defense stuff. Which is a damn shame, because I love it.

Also, dominions 3, now that I think about it. The strategy aspect is definitely not hands off (micromanagement like goddamn), but the combat is very much like gratuitous space battles et al.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:32:21 pm »
I'm glad you're being intelligent about this as usual, Bay 12. I was hoping people wouldn't say that we should stop eating animals for illogical ideological reasons. However, the same counterargument still holds ground; if we don't need meat we wont bother with the animals that give it to us. They'll be mass cullings, and i suspect it would take many generations for the amount of animals that have lived human free in the wild outstrip the ones killed then or because of overgrazing and suchlike from a lack of natural predators.
... I can only half parse that for some reason, but nah, there's not really enough left of the wild, by and large, to support the current farmed population, so far as I'm aware. But preservation issues are a sorta' separate issue, for all that the consequences of actually stopping animal farming would be pretty significant regarding the animals themselves (I'd give strong odds a good chunk of them would be extinct within a few generations, t'be honest, if only because a goodly number of the non-domestic relative species are already endangered, from what I understand.).

I'm pretty sure cows and chickens would go extinct pretty quick if we left them to their own devices.   :P
Naaah, chickens would probably be fine, I think. There's still decent wild populations of those, iirc. They're vicious little bastards, and their dietary habits (i.e. goddamn everything) means they've got a pretty decent range. Cows... less so. That's more of a range issue, and it's pretty much a given we're not going to yield much land to 'em if we're not eating them.

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General Discussion / Re: The Ethics of Eating Animals
« on: February 12, 2013, 04:22:51 pm »
I'll just say I'm terribly looking forward to genuine replacement meat, vat meat or whatever else science pulls from its arse, hitting the market and becoming affordable.

Though yeah, in regards to pigs, that little fuzzy bastard would eat you, given half a chance. Cuteness is irrelevant, I have no issue eating what would eat me (providing it tastes good and bacon is delicious).

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Got NWN up and running, so if you wouldn't mind someone joining in that's got pretty much zero experience with this sort of thing (and hasn't played NWN in years ;)), count me in. Though I might be a lil'drowsy during the suggested playsession, as that's ~midnight to 3 AM for me. Better for me would be starting a few hours earlier (between that and about 9 PM CST, a three-ish hour range), but so long as it's on a weekend I think I can swing it regardless.

My current thought is to not power-game much (i.e. at all :P) and go with a fairly simple background/motivation. A somewhat unscrupulous (a sort of watered down CN) dwarf loremaster (bard) sent from the mountainhomes to seek knowledge and artifacts of dragonkind in the wider world. Eventually multiclassing into dragon disciple (should he live that long, heh), as he learns the ways of the wyrm and how to turn that power against them.

Fairly standard dwarven upbringing, but the negotiable morals and fairly strong inquisitive nature (for a dwarf, in any case) causes a bit of friction, ultimately resulting in his current assignment which is as much penance as duty. His own inclination towards curiosity and somewhat conflicted view on the mountainhomes (as well as the general lack of logistical support therefrom) means that he's currently somewhat lackadaisic in his pursuit of his assigned goal, leading to him being... wherever it is this thing starts up, looking for work, amusement, or leads.

Name is... let me run the NWN name generator a couple times... Semli Conforge.

Izzat alright? Suggestions for improvement, or more detail/etc. wanted?

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:23:24 am »
Nah, you should be alright to full explore that joint, though you don't have to -- it's got an interesting gimmick where you gain a level when you go down the stairs regardless. Well, I say gain a level, but it's more like set you to level two and three if you weren't there already. But yeah, you generally want to explore that place in hope of finding better equipment. Lot of classes rely on finding something useful in those first few floors to make Brotoq really bearable. Just rest up after each fight and remember to use your regen infusion and stunning blow. If you were using auto-explore, it rests for you.

More in general, should have made sure you had combat accuracy (which I think 'zerks start with a point in) and by and large let Norgan do the tanking. Dude can actually take most of the joint by himself, but some help doesn't exactly hurt.

Sometimes, though, the RNG decides to screw you and you'll get a particularly bunched up group of Orcs and Norgan dies. That can cause problems, but do note that Norgan dying doesn't really mean anything beyond losing a meat shield and a 'cheevo. Also be careful not to death dance the poor bugger :P

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:17:31 am »
Can't offer advice without more info :(

Catchall stuff would be to use your inscriptions (regeneration infusion for most, shielding runes for others. Use both of them pre-emptively when possible, before you're at half health or below.) and give berserkers or alchemists a roll. The former, just max the berserker talent and pick up some combat accuracy and weapons mastery and you can mostly faceroll the first few dungeons just bumping into crap*. The latter, go 5/5/5/- into explosive admixture and you basically win a good chunk of the game. 2/2/- or so into the golem tree will mostly take care of the first few dungeons for you, too.

If you started with a shalore, note you can leave the dungeon and probably should. Just about anything can do their starting zone, but it seems to eat new players pretty easy. There's easier ones further north (you can start as something besides shalore or dwarf and start in them, if you want help findin' 'em). If you started with a dwarf, note that you can walk (well, run screaming like a little girl but either way :P) past Brotoq while he's wailing on Norgan and just leave. You can combat later after you've killed Prox or Norgos.

*Though that's somewhat deceptive -- if you want to succeed in the longer term, you're going to have to be using your active abilities (such as stunning blow, death dance, rush, etc.) very much regularly. T4 has an active design goal of making it so you can't win just bumping everything to death. DG found that sort of gameplay (which is pretty endemic among melee characters in roguelikes) to be boring.

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:09:37 am »
And now for your regularly schedualed even worse statement:
Can't really blame the guy. After all, pope-in' ain't easy.
Nah, pope-in's easy, it's keeping the news and the law from finding out about it that's the problem.

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Janet for Mayor Y/Y?
/IFF she wears the eye patch and pirate hat. *bubbles in choice three*

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Other Games / Re: League of Legends - Season 3!
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:59:47 am »
... I can kinda' see how some people would find it strange or hard to swallow to be... not doing anything, actually. Who really wants to play a game where the most optimal strategy is to basically just sit on your arse half the time while the other people actually get to enjoy themselves? I'm quite certain quite a few people would be thoroughly uninterested in doing that, y'know?

I'unno, I know where you're coming from, but something about that little spiel just kinda' sits poorly, possible re: DotA knockoff game design. Why design a game where it's a good idea for one or more of the people playing it to, well, not play it for half the match or whatever? Just another reason to decouple character progression from critter kills if i ever do get around to drumming out an AoS style roguelike, I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: February 12, 2013, 02:50:13 am »
The, the... the ones you can? Is... is there other options? Ask teacher-thing, or academic advisor equivalent?

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General Discussion / Re: Pope Resigns
« on: February 12, 2013, 01:08:22 am »
Only if you happen to be cooking him. Under no other circumstances will that pun be kosher.

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