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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 11, 2013, 11:30:11 pm »
Samus VS Master Chief All the Spartans, because quite frankly Samus is so powerful she needs a spehss handbag to store the skulls of the enemies she's personally decapitated. Without even raising a finger.
... y'all haven't seen th'CG animation of that? Because there was one, a while back. Checking up on it, fellow named Monty Oum did it.

Personally, I like the end results, but I don't know if it jives with Halo canon anymore. Has any of the latest stuff shown what's under the helmet?

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General Discussion / Re: Vitriol on the internet and the effects therein
« on: February 11, 2013, 03:29:36 pm »
... it's really not that hard. With just about everything I've experienced so far, being nice not only took less effort, it was more effective, if at times somewhat less time efficient. That latter bit is probably why a lot of people tend to default to less than nice, as it does tend to get results somewhat quicker (though less effective results and often requiring much more effort.). People get in a hurry for some strange reason :-\

E: And even then, it's not uncommon for it to be a short term time gain for a long term time loss, especially if you have to deal with the people in question at a later date. Burning bridges and annoying the staff is generally a good way for folks to remember and dislike you, y'know?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: February 11, 2013, 03:04:46 am »
Ah. Condolences, then.

And, uh. Thanks for the weather update. Takes a bit off the mind, lets me sleep easier.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: February 11, 2013, 02:46:58 am »
Big ass tornado
Huh. Was that recent and, uh. Near your current place of residence? 'Cause I'm kinda' close, too, and haven't exactly been paying attention to the weather the last few days >_>

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Quick googling is suggesting something called Crowded Cities. Speaking of that, what's your mod list? My last attempt at oblivion modding ended up with me being massively frustrated and giving up and playing Nehrim more :-\

E: Which is actually mostly a happy 'cause Nehrim's awesome.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:58:02 am »
A planet sized harem of force users. Sure, mostly the wrong gender for Leia's preferences, but whatever! Also pet space T-Rexes.

And an imperial installation but details, details. Point being, there's not too many folks that decide a flipping planet makes for a good dowry-thingy. It counts for something! And the whole herpes Hapes thing turned out good, too!

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:48:36 am »
Courtship of Princess Leia was the... second star wars book I read, I think. After Truce at Bakura. Which I probably got a hold of during one of the initial print runs.

I'll give Han this much. As marriage proposal gift thingies go, dude doesn't aim small. But yeah, I was kinda' there for the initial EU publications.

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Other Games / Re: First Come, First Serve
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:43:56 am »
And got. Thanks, fellow old-timer! Borderlands's been tempting me for a long while, it has.

Now to bow out of the claimant position until I can contribute something to the pool besides DotA2 invites :P

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Other Games / Re: First Come, First Serve
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:33:21 am »
I'll take it, if yeh don't mind handing it to the critter that claimed Titan's Quest earlier.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 11, 2013, 12:42:52 am »
Hey now, it's forgivable. I've... only read some of them. Iirc, they started come out about when I was starting to phase out of star wars reading.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:57:06 pm »
Yeah, gets annoying. Even given a more fluid force use, that... basically matches them up with psyker fluidity (at least unless the psyker's limited to a particular capability set, anyway), except the psyker can also open up rifts in reality and let spew forth psychic doom predators. Plus the whole even-good-guy-psykers-set-off-tiny-warp-storms-in-peoples-brains-for-fun thing.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:45:57 pm »
Mm... yeah, if it's just a goody-two-shoes Jedi, I'd probably wager in favor of the Psyker, depending on what the critter can do. Some quick reminderin' of what they're capable of is, uh. I mean, yeah, some of them can just do the force choke thing, or go straight to the point and make hearts explode. And I'm faaairly sure that's epsilon and below. Plus force lightning is something even the good guy psykers kinda' throw around like candy.

I'd need like a list of powers or something to weigh in on it meaningfully. Psykers in general tend to be a bit less constrained the force users, from what I remember. They've potentially got most of what Jedi do, plus a little bit.

So, Psyker wins the fight, but the disruption of force powers slamming head first into warp manipulation causes th'psyker to get possessed, ultimately spiraling into a series of unfortunate events that turns the hosting planet into a daemonworld.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:27:49 pm »
Wait, wait. Given that, when a force weapon meets a lightsaber, what happens?

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:17:39 pm »
Yeah, WH40k psykers ending up in a "calm" warp is a pretty common thing with WH40k crossovers. Cue the psykers going whee, the astropaths probably freaking out a bit (no astronomicon, which means their FTL is probably still shafted), and the presence of powerful psykers probably causing the Warp to start to happily un-untaint itself :P

Mostly depends on how they play the warp, really. Untainted doesn't necessarily mean there's nothing out there, after all. At most, it'd probably mean nothing on the scale of the Chaos Gods, which leaves plenty of room for daemons to still be around.

'Course, you could have some real fun and throw a Chaos group into the calm warp instead. That's a happy recipe for some delightful fanwarkery as everything promptly turns to chaos!shit.

Who knows. Maybe the Force is really just the way pskyer powers manifest in SW. Obviously there wouldn't be too much looking into it for other purposes, seeing as how they already have better FTL. But think about the Imperials' (40K) reaction.
Ehn... it's not entirely impossible, actually. There's some aspects of the force that mimic how the Warp's supposed to react, particularly the way it can linger in areas, but it's... unlikely. From what I remember of SW lore, if they were actually dealing with the warp they would have birthed a Chaos god or two already. Daemons are by and large naturally forming around emotional and/or psychically powerful creatures.

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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: February 10, 2013, 10:10:37 pm »
Ehhh, that's debatable, really. Orkz have by and large already won a long time ago in canon. The WH40k universe is basically their nirvana. When they say something along the lines that they're not losing (losing would be not fighting, not dying or having to retreat. Dying just means getting into another fight with Gork and Mork and retreating means you get to fight more later :P), they're just getting blown up so the next fight will be better, they're right. So long as conflict is possible, they've succeeded in their operational goals. You can win a fight against an Ork, but Orkz don't lose, heh. Even if you kill them.

But yeah, they can't really just magic nova cannons out the aether, and they're limited by their imagination (which is itself limited by the size of the waaaagh they get together, really, to provide the psychic juice to actually make it happen.). But a mekboy can do stuff with a pile of scape or a broken spaceship that's literally physically impossible, and given that space hulks are basically limited only by plot (because, as noted, there's no bloody telling what's stuck in that thing. Maybe there's a warp spawned copy of the Executor itself in all that junk, who knows *throws up hands*), I wouldn't wager against them pulling a doom MacGuffin of some sort out of one of the hulk's crannies. Sure, it might blow up half the hulk in the process, but Ork equipment is, well, more effective than it has any right to be (and given how terrible some of it is in practice, that's really darn telling, heh.).

'Course, as noted, they'd probably just hurl a bunch of chunks of it stuffed full of orkz at the enemy ships instead. Prepare for boarding action, ahahahaha!

So I'd say it depends on the space hulk, y'know? Some of those things take WH40k fleets to stop, from what I remember. Executor's a whole lot of kickass, but it's not quite on that scale, I don't believe. Galactica's a whole lot of buggered, though. I'm not even sure if it could meaningfully contribute, outside of maybe getting rammed into the Executor after the Ork boarding parties took over.

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