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Ocarina of Time, the first N64 zelda game. There's a famous/infamous character in it with a signature phrase -- first thing you hear from them, possibly the first voice you hear at all once you start the game, if I'm not misremembering -- of "Hey! Listen!"

They're largely considered one of the most godawful annoying characters in all of gaming

But I don't really care about her beyond the fact that some Republicans (the free speech party) broke rank to penalize her, while Democrats won't break rank to even censure their own.

Often enough, when one of their own deserves censure, there's no rank breaking because the party will actually just bloody boot them to the extent they're able. We've seen this shit repeatedly over the last several years, where dems will actually pressure out a sex pest instead of actively electing one, just for a specific, non-exhaustive, category of behavior.

They're not as on top of that sort of thing as they probably should be, but it's a bloody joke if you're going to try to insinuate the GOP cares more about the bad behavior of its members than the dems do.

Others have ninja'd things well enough on the free speech horseshit, though. The party of voter suppression is no more a party of free speech than my tortiseshell cat's nonexistent left nut is.

I mean, accelerate it to a sufficient fraction of c and it probably can be a weapon against the bugs.

I don't get it, really. All Christians I meet in real life consider the Jew people as the first chosen by God. The evangelist ones actually consider them sacred people filled with the grace of God... Back when Chavez cursed the land of Israel and all it's people on national tv there was a huge backslash for him on part of basically all Christendom from all denominations here.

I mean, that's one of the tricky parts -- there's wildly antisemetic christians, some just straight up holocaust denying pro-genocide fuckwits, that are nevertheless very strongly pro-israel. Dominionist types, that believe that israel must exist for the express purpose of being destroyed as part of the second coming, among others. Throwing shade at israel sometimes gets condemnation from goddamn neo-nazis who'd be cheering if you lynched a jew on main street.

Just like criticism of israel isn't necessarily a sign of general anti-jewish sentiment, support for it isn't a sign of general acceptance of jews, either, unfortunately. It's complicated shit nowadays.

I could agree that Christian thought-customs then carried anti-semitism, but as the widespread historical persecution of Jews in Muslim regions show, it is not a Christianity-based problem.

The extension of anti-semitic/xenophobic sentiment into something pervasive and functionally global is primarily a christianity based problem, bred within and spread by the churches -- however the initial spark came about, what LB's talking about came from the pulpit more than pretty much anything else, and by a fairly significant margin. There's lots of reasons and historical coincidences behind the why of it (eventual widespread secular influence of the church being a big part), but there's not much in the way of question as to its existence, least as far as I'm aware. It's breaking down a bit recently-ish, thank whatever's listening, but it's still a pretty damn serious problem among a lot of denominations.

You can talk about issues in muslim regions, but they were very often significantly more accepting of jews than christian regions were even with those issues. It's one of the reasons you see a fair amount of important jewish thinkers throughout history receiving patronage from muslim rulers when persecution of their people was common in both muslim and christian areas. Christian treatment of jews has been a historically nasty thing for a long, long time.

Pfff I blow your sharks with my orbital lasers....

That's a fetish I didn't particularly want to know existed

This is turning into like pre-2000s ad spam; only for actual elections. Giant buttons that say FRAUD websites want you to smash.

I've seen arguments that those websites, especially popping up prior to any possible supporting data and asking for money/donations, might actually constitute straight up wire fraud themselves.

It'll be interesting to see if more lawsuits over that horseshit start popping up. There's a point nonsense turns grounds for a civil or criminal suit, and the folks coming to prominence in conservative circles these days ain't exactly the sort to care about exactly where that point is...

I named one of the outside cats we feed "other cat", sure.