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Other Games / Re: League of Legends Updated! - End of Season 2
« on: November 20, 2012, 10:31:41 pm »
The best thing. The best of things. Is to ult a teamfight on the other end of the map as Gangplank, and get all the kills. All of them.

I wasn't even trying to do that! I wanted the assists! And to help, of course. But no, RNB says, "Have some extra gold, broplank." And so I got some extra gold. Not that I needed it >_>

Still. GP's pretty nice. Solid. Dependable. Useful to have around. And rich. Good things. E:Also breeds an incredible compulsion to shoot anything low on health with the Q. Reflexive kill steals are a terrible thing :-\

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: November 20, 2012, 05:43:32 pm »
Peppermint extract actually kinda' burns if applied to the skin undiluted (still better than the stench of month old food rot!). S'seriously a bit painful. I don't think vanilla extract does that.

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Other Games / Re: Starbound - A flat yet infinite universe.
« on: November 20, 2012, 03:29:00 pm »
Robots and plants with tits. Now we're cooking with gas, people.

I'm not quite sure what sort of gas, mind. It's probably hallucinatory. But we've begun cooking with it, whatever it is.

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General Discussion / Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« on: November 20, 2012, 02:51:04 pm »
NHBMECM2012... NHBMECMZOR? ... Noob Meccazor? There's got to be some kind of immaculately terrible Mortal Combat/Power Rangers/Quran crossover in that. The world's holy cities are actually sleeping zoids and transform to contest in the next round of mortal combat? I can... I can almost see it. It has a terrible majesty.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« on: November 20, 2012, 02:14:46 pm »
I had a duuuude moment last night.  What if the universe is God's brain?  As in, everything in the universe is the equivalent of neurons, the movements and actions of the objects making up the universe correspond at the highest level to God's thoughts.  Is that Spinozism?
Nah... kinda' close to it, but not quite. With the caveat that it's kinda' muddled in my head and I may be conflating or confusing 'im with someone else, what I remember of Spinoza is that God == Nature, plus a bit. Existence is kinda' like the flesh and body of God, and then there's some bits outside existence (and blazes if I remember the specifics of what th'dude said on that bit) that comprises the rest of the divine entity. The bits outside are arguably the higher aspect of the divine, but physical reality is still entirely intrinsic to the makeup of Spinoza's God.

The God == Reality, full stop, thing, is actually a bit more prevalent a message (If hilariously confuddled by violent language abuse) from some of the bigger name medieval theologians (though shoot me down to name any of the buggers. I've got a medieval philosophy book buried somewhere about the size of my head that's got the names and some representative texts in it). Basic message there was that God == Most Fundamental Good == Brute Existence (which prefaces all good things, and is most fundamental to them.) (== Fundamental Particles, natch.). They were actually hardcore materialists, which is something of a tremendously amusing thing, from a certain point of view.

Does anyone else get a bit irritated with all the philosophical jargon like "NextTuesdayism" and "True Scotsman" and all that stuff? A lack of clarity of terminology and dryness of sentence is making the philosophical discussion quite impenetrable.
It's technical language (well, those in particular aren't, but similar things, yes.) that saves a tremendous amount of time once you're familiar with it. One of the problems with asking for clarity of terminology when you're dealing with philosophy is that if you're not referring to something like "Next Tuesdayism", it takes multiple paragraphs of text to describe what's essentially a basic stock argument in the field. Jargon -- technical language and short-hand stuff like the common fallacy names et al -- saves a lot of paper space when you're dealing with folks that are already aware of what it's referring to. Mind you, it's not exactly the most appropriate thing for conversation with those less familiar with the lingo, but that's what wikipedia links are for :P

E:It's worth noting that the problem is arguably even worse for theology, because its established language has a somewhat nasty habit of co-opting common use terms to mean something utterly unconnected from said common use. There's some interesting written pieces on how religious language does its thing, actually. Philosophers tend to brain each other when they try to pull shit like that :P

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« on: November 20, 2012, 09:43:40 am »
Basic concept of sufficient causation, OB, regarding the original cause thing. Nothing comes from nothing, there has to be sufficient reason for a thing to happen/exist. "God" is propositioned because it's generally held that you can't get more out of something than you put in (something something conservation of energy before conservation of energy was formalized), so the sufficient cause of the universe must therefore be greater than the universe. Humans like to anthropomorphize that thing, whatever it would be, as a divine entity, usually with various humanlike aspects. I.e. a god.

And of course, the immediate response is if the divine spontaneously generated or whatev' (actually, the divine's generally considered to be atemporal or something, and thus always existent; the details vary by argument), why couldn't the universe? Then you tend to roll toward either the watch argument or something rooted in psychology; better a god than nothing, because that makes us special or summat like that.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« on: November 19, 2012, 09:49:44 pm »
You can have pretty significant conceptual differences in those "smaller boxes," though, and depending on how they fall it can have a notable relevance to a particular discussion. It's kinda' like how there can be a pretty tremendous difference between a Christian theist and a Hindu theist, ferex, or a monotheist and someone like Spinoza. All theists? Sure. Same sort of belief system? Only very remotely.

That's kinda' why it can cause such circular tail chasing trying to nail down comfortable definitions for a lot of this stuff. Devil's in the details and all that rot, and painting with too wide a brush makes for a messy, too inaccurate picture.

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General Discussion / Re: No, I don't like anime... leave me alone.
« on: November 19, 2012, 08:37:11 pm »
Let's, ah. Let's just say counting by relative generation of derivative works of the characters, I'd probably say Faye counts as fanservice. The bikini bit(s. Don't recall if there were multiple.) is just a little extra on top. Fanservice isn't inimical to plot or necessarily unfitting with the scenario! It can be well utilized, there's nothing wrong with a sexy, vivacious character, and it's entirely possible one (or more) fits in the general atmosphere of the show perfectly. But fanservice is still fanservice, and when more skin is showing than not on a notably attractive character, I'd say it probably counts :P

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General Discussion / Re: No, I don't like anime... leave me alone.
« on: November 19, 2012, 08:19:52 pm »
Meanwhile if you have an even vaguely popular animated show in japan you've (at least usually) gotta have an episode specifically dedicated to putting everyone in swimsuits. :P Some get away without it (Like cowboy bebop I think, natch), but by and large it just happens.
Bebop definitely doesn't. Faye gets skimpy at least once, iirc, and that's ignoring her normal getup. Bebop's pretty comfortably representative on the fanservice front :P

I actually can't recall any manga or anime off the top of my head that's not aimed at younger audiences that doesn't indulge in fanservice at least a little, but that has a lot more to do with my tastes in the medium (I avoid serious stuff like the plague and pretty much specifically seek out light-hearted and/or fanservice-y stuff, heh.) than anything else. I know I've read/seen multiple of them, I just can't recall any, heh.

At the same time, though, I can't recall any western media that doesn't indulge based on the same rubric. Different manifestations, perhaps, but western media is sexualized all to hell. Anime stuff may be a little more blunt on the overt skin thing, I'unno, but from what I understand the culture outside the states, at least, is a bit more casual about that stuff.

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Phlogiston's kinda' like WH40k naptha, I think. It's something that burns. Think alchemic napalm, I guess.

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: November 19, 2012, 07:44:32 pm »
I'm pretty terrible at farming, especially when I'm fighting for it (i.e. the other guy actually denies), but I don't blame my team for it. I know I'm a handicap for the poor suckers I'm stuck with.

Incidentally, are there any heroes that can switch between jungle and support easily? If there are, it might be a good idea to figure out how to play them, so I don't have to bother figuring out how to lane :P

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General Discussion / Re: No, I don't like anime... leave me alone.
« on: November 19, 2012, 07:29:05 pm »
Nah.  I never saw Buffy the vampire slayer in a bikini.   :P  Anime is by far way worse than any other format I've seen.  Except for I guess pornography, but that is the point of pornography so it gets a free pass.
To which I'd counter Baywatch and any of the copious amount of daytime drama crap (which I don't, personally, watch, but unfortunately have to walk past regularly :-\), and then probably lay out any of the pleasant anime stuff that didn't indulge in beach episodes :P

Point being it's pretty universal in both realms, really. Maybe there's like, a 49/51 split or whatev'. But fanservice is fanservice and it's bloody everywhere.

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General Discussion / Re: No, I don't like anime... leave me alone.
« on: November 19, 2012, 07:19:40 pm »
Isn't, uh. Isn't the fanservice thing kinda' an ubiquitous thing across cultural borders and media formats? It's in more than it's not, really, from what I've seen. Western, eastern, tiny pre-agrarian villages in the congo, whatever. I don't really find most of what I've seen in the anime realm to be more egregious than, well, TV in general. Or movies. Or western cartoons. Or books old and new, or ancient myths, or... well, the list goes on :P

Maybe folks are more inured to the fanservice in the media format they're more familiar with?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 19, 2012, 06:32:15 pm »
So... maybe roll with no overarching plot? Scenes, scenarios, a living world...? Exploration for the sake of exploration, concept manipulation, and system investigation?

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General Discussion / Re: A quick summary of the Hostess debacle
« on: November 19, 2012, 06:14:06 pm »
Dunno if it's the same ones as in Australia, but they sell mars bars down here in Forida. So, something called the same thing, at least, is on the east coast :P

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