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Messages - Frumple

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I'm still counting the days until they start enforcing the no-cell while driving laws. I'm fairly sure it turned illegal down here in florida a few years ago, but there's not been much enforcement, from what I've seen.

In semi-related events, I actually had a roomie when I was getting the bachelors that talking to someone over the phone when the person they were talking to wrecked. Because they were distracted by talking on the phone. So. Yeah.

I'll give even odds we have cell-suppressing devices in vehicles within a decade. Or at least full integration of the hands-off systems. Talking's still bad enough, but it's fiddling with the damn things that is particularly bad. And then there's the ones that text and drive, which is... just mind boggling. But I've seen it happen, and promptly chewed the fuck out of the driver because what the flying hell.

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May things end with you tied to the ceiling and happy.

I've always been kinda' curious if midair suspension would improve one's gaming capabilities.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: October 14, 2012, 04:24:04 pm »
Hence the "hurry up" part. Though, being fair, I'd be content if the negative consequences of going without were merely less than the negative consequences of sleep.

In any case, buggerit, taking nap. To the seventy Sven hells with it.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: October 14, 2012, 04:09:52 pm »
That annoying period of time when you're impeccably tired, but it's too late to take a nap and too early to go to sleep. It's giving me a headache. I'd really like to take a nap, but even an hour's doze would leave me staying awake 'till something unworkable in the morning and going to sleep would have me waking up at like midnight (and then being fairly exhausted by sunrise). Gots stuff to do tomorrow :-\

Sleep being necessary royally sucks. I wanna' leave myself on for a few years like I do my computers, and trade in for a new model when doing that melts important hardware. Damnit transhumanism, hurry up.

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Just shy of five years, now, and still no pathos. I imagine the ones that have been converting were just flukes, honestly. Either that or the infection only occurs for those that registered later on...

Actually... wait, wait. Do we count years by registration date or log in time? I'm only like, a third of a year (lil' bit more) by the latter.

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Depends on what the courts decide once they get a hold of the hurtling junk heap's controller... and what you'd consider a "victory" :P

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 14, 2012, 11:31:28 am »
Why do you think that is?
In a number of cases, there just seems to be no need. America is a really bloody huge place, and for a good chunk of our population just wandering around it alone is sufficient to scratch travel urges.

There's also the xenophobia. That's particularly strong in my area. Why the hell would they want to go trapezing around some "dirty foreign shithole?" To channel their prejudices via direct quotation.

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You guys don't get sick days?
From some of the horror stories I've heard, a) in some cases, no, and b) in others, actually using them may cause you to lose your job or put you in much greater risk of it. So, functionally, no. It's not quite universal, but it's definitely a thing and particularly prevalent in lower wage jobs.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 14, 2012, 10:27:24 am »
Quite a few americans don't have passports, from what I've seen. Most people I know don't, but I'm in a pretty insular area. Most of them don't really have any interest in going to other countries. Also, passports are apparently kinda' expensive. Fifty somethin' bucks at the low end, if I'm parsing it right. If a fellow already can't afford medical fees, that's... not inconsiderable.

As for the fired for spending a couple days in another country, well. Depends on where those days landed. Missing one or two days of work can get yer arse tossed out in the states right now, in a number of cases. Considering Hans is having legal issues at the moment as well...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 14, 2012, 09:45:48 am »
Ahaha, I now have a disturbing image of past priests spontaneously orgasming at the thought of in-vitro fertilization. Imagine, a method of reproduction in which you don't even have to be in the same room!

In retrospect, it's kinda' odd that you see a bit of a backlash against that and related tech by the particularly prudish among the pious. You'd think it'd be a god-sent (heh) technology for them, the ability to completely divorce sinful pleasures of the flesh from holy reproduction. Inquisitors for the Iron Womb? Need more catchy group names, hum.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:34:13 am »
Hey, I'd say the exact same thing about tobacco smokers and alcohol drinkers, but it'd never fly for entirely cultural reasons. I don't particularly want people whose lungs may give out at the drop of a hat or who are walking around with pickled brains making important decisions, either. And yeah, you can pretty regularly tell a difference between a chronic smoker or regular drinker and someone who isn't, years down the line.

It also turns out that there's plenty of high functioning drug users who utilize currently illegal substances and go about "working hard and making more money than they could ever spend". Cuts both ways, basically. You're as much a drug user as they are, it's just alcohol and tobacco (largely arbitrarily, with a hint of historical weight and a hefty dose of lobby money) isn't illegal, and hey, you've found yourself to be sufficiently functional. Surprise! Other folks can manage it, too.

But yeah, drug law has absolutely jack-all to do with anything even remotely beneficial. It's not about protecting society or whatev'. It, in general, passed the point of even attempting to years, maybe decades ago. More about protecting pocketbooks, nowadays. There's not many areas of law in the states that are quite so heavily corrupt, really. There's occasional in-roads trying to fix at least portions of the unholy buggerup the situation has become but it tends to get slapped down because $$$.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:10:50 am »
GG... drug law, in the states at least, are only nominally -- and only just barely that -- about "saving a person from themselves". It's got a hell of a lot more to do with tobacco and alcohol lobbies mixed with historic prejudice, with prison privatization forces starting to dip their fingers hard into the issue. It's definitely grossly immoral and about as clear an expression of might (money) makes right (law) as you'll see, but it's got basically jack-all to do with personal sovereignty. Unfortunately. It'd be considerably more moral (though still grossly immoral, honestly.) if it were actually like you were presenting it.

States are definitely a terrible example of potentially moral criminal law, as well. It's possible for criminal law to have more to do with morality than practical or emotional factors (though the former, in particular, will almost always still be a strong component), and there's some (mostly european, from what I understand) countries that are closer (with emphasis on the -er, unfortunately) to that ideal, but the states are quiet blatantly and close to universally about retributive punishment, at their best (at their worst, it's nasty shit like the drug laws). There's a difference between retributive punishment and rehabilitative justice; the latter can be moral, while the former is unequivocally (and necessarily, because it flat out doesn't work) not. It'll probably take another century of psych research before folks actually get enough data to bludgeon even the holdouts from yesteryear's ignorance hard enough to shape up, though :-\

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General Discussion / Re: Objections to Objectivism
« on: October 13, 2012, 11:21:05 pm »
This also does not change the fact that the resources involved are still scarce, whereas human needs and desires are not. Can you really say that every person on the planet would have everything they wanted without work required without reservations?
This is a pretty blatant misrepresentation of what was being discussed. That's not what was proposed or sought. What was proposed was that basic necessities -- food, shelter, etc. -- are possible to be turned post-scarce with today's technology. This is true. If we had the political backing for it, we've got the engineering problems related to that mostly solved, now (and time will, in all likelihood, only increase our prowess in that area), and the resources necessary to do so. If we as a species (or even just some of the larger powers) wanted to, and could manage to get around to getting the logistic aspect of it rolling.

As for human needs not being scarce... that's untrue. By the numbers, mankind's population is going to cap off at a certain level and then begin to reduce if technological progress continues as is, and it's a fairly trivial (if somewhat time consuming, I'd imagine) exercise from that point to identify precisely where our needs as a species will settle. At which point there's a limit on them, and, conceptually, they become scarce. Desires may be a different story, but they're not nearly as important, in all honesty, and scarcity-based systems are actually pretty good at handling those, as is.

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Gaah. Cleanse it with fire.

Ninja'd. E: Beyond that, Doc Wik's info. Do what must be done.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: October 13, 2012, 10:19:11 pm »
We could seriously stand to avoid another gun derail, especially due to bait as obvious as this case is. Yes?

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General Discussion / Re: Gender and all it entails
« on: October 13, 2012, 09:22:16 pm »
Capability to induce by practice is still hereditary, though. We don't spring forth from the womb speaking five languages, but our ability to learn them in later life is indeed within the umbrella of evolution.

So to, apparently, with the ability for males to stimulate milk production.

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