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I don't think most people in the US want "universal health care." What the majority in the US wants is "low cost health care without having to pay premiums or my taxes going up."

Note even what you said - the supermajority wants a public option - I guarantee if that wasn't an option but was mandated then you'd get different poll results.

That's the thing with polls - you can usually word them in a way to get whatever result you want.  Polls suck.

I mean, you didn't say anything about a specific form of it. Explicitly mandated gov't controlled healthcare isn't necessary for universal healthcare sans crippling burdens. A public option would give universal healthcare to the US, or close enough to it to fix a shitton of our healthcare issues. A supermajority wants that. A supermajority of the US population wants universal healthcare, flat out.

bump due to fred pissing on everything

It's raining, people. Flood alerts across most of the panhandle, flooding likely to follow the storm north, possibly as far as bloody new york. Been raining steady and mostly intensifying for the last six hours or so, where I'm at.

e: how do I still have power

We should have never been there in the first place. But I hate the back seat condemnation of US forces like this is somehow unique to us. NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCEEDED IN AFGHANISTAN. Not us. Not the Russians. Not the British.

No one except the Persians, Greeks, Kushans, Arabs, Mongols, Tamerlane and the Mughals, you mean, to crib someone else's notes

Don't really disagree with much of what else you said, but there's been plenty over the course of history that held on to the region in question without getting eaten in the process. There's also very few that have had their control of the place collapse quite so spectacularly as we have this round, from what I understand.

We definitely shouldn't have been there, though, and we extra definitely shouldn't have been propping up the kid raping sacks of shit we did while we were there, just as one "well, maybe that was a mistake" among a pile of them.

There were some serious, serious problems with the groups we were supporting in that country, and it's turned around to bite... well, not us, really, but all the folks we fucked over when we invaded to begin with, and all the folks about to get ruined now that the shit we were holding up is collapsing like the rotten house of cards we helped make it

babby froog, babby froog,
babby froog getting eaten by beeg froog
whoops, cannibalism~

Not like it's near the worst the blighter's done, iirc, but still. Sudden illustrated noncon muscle yaoi was probably a bit of a surprise.

... in other wtfs, it's kinda' remarkable how bad the earlier john wayne parts are, both on his side and everything else. B-western is a remarkably apt description for that stuff, heh.

Except when it sorta' didn't, likely involving high speeds in odd directions and/or space shenanigans. Gravity probably lifted up the hearts of the dudes going to land on the moon, for a little bit!

If you found out another species called humans something like meatsacks or beef, wouldn’t you consider that derogatory and/or threatening?

Long pork would probably be the equivalent, and it's something we call ourselves fairly often.

Probably would be fairly threatening, but on the other hand, most things in history that particularly able to back up that sort of threat we've eventually either domesticated or ate, so...