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Messages - Frumple

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I go, I watch, I come back and the thread has moved four (probably five by the time I'm done typing this) pages. There were a lot of happy monkeys in that room. It is a good thing.

Huzzah!Now I'm just waiting for metal tentacles to explode from the ground after that laser gets fired~

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 05, 2012, 11:45:42 pm »
Yeah, that kind of line is a... well, should be, anyway... a line a therapist worth a shit probably shouldn't be spouting. If they're not painfully aware of how people slip through the cracks, either they were failed by who trained them or failed as a student. Don't know what else I can say about that, other than to keep looking for a capable one. They're tremendously helpful when they're competent, it's just finding those ones. That'un doesn't sound like she's it.

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After a good and rage filled fifteen-twenty minutes of no sound, low quality, and about fifty crashes of Safari, Frumple finally noticed NASA TV has an app for the shitpad, and now has sound and decent quality. Currently doing preshow thing, with active coverage starting up in... ten minutes?

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: LP Civ4:C2C (16567 BC - First Contact)
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:19:59 pm »
I'unno, that time Ponpu cut 'imself open while hopped up on snake venom only had a couple rocks stuck inside. Who ever heard of a squishy automaton? It'll make more sense once we start taking these... selltees... apart and seeing how the earth spirits are making them move. Then maybe we can make our own.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Theology Discussion
« on: August 05, 2012, 03:52:16 pm »
Aye, there's that. Thing is, while I can say that I experience the same wavelength interaction, I can't say I see the same color -- I can't, accurately, say the sky is blue, as I see at least four other colors in that mess. I can say it's that thing that people call blue, but not much more than that. While the input's the same, the output is apparently considerably different. In this case, the definition we use for blue -- which, I'd say, involves more than just the wavelength, particularly re: singular nature -- isn't one that fits my experience, and my own description of it has been noted repeatedly to be rather radically different from the normal. I'm basically taking it on faith that what I'm seeing is what everyone else is talking about when they describe the color blue, because when they take me outside and point up the experiment's reproduction fails :P

Guess I'm saying there's a bit more convention to part of what's being measured (particularly re: interpretation, in this case) than might be being considered.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Theology Discussion
« on: August 05, 2012, 03:36:53 pm »
*coughs* Well, there's some wiggle room with sensory data. When I say the sky is blue, I'm actually lying to you -- I've had fairly acute visual snow my whole life, and I don't see the sky as blue, but rather a sort of writhing kalidescopic mess threaded through a partially blue field.

The very concept of "pure" color is completely at odds with my empirical experience and while I speak of them as a matter of convenience and can sort of recognize them in an abstract sense (partially blue field, ferex), I'm not actually talking about the same phenomena, because I've never encountered it. When I say the sky is blue, I'm actually saying I believe the sky is the thing most of the rest of you probably call blue :P It's not actually a single color to me -- insofar as actual experience goes, singular color might as well be a platonic ideal without physical expression.

Now, when you say something like "the desk is hard," then there's definite agreement. That's a bit harder to experience differently, and hardness is a bit less abstract and subjective than color.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Theology Discussion
« on: August 05, 2012, 11:05:24 am »
Semantic slip again, but... not all atheists, no. M'one (agnostic atheist, more accurately, or 'weak' atheist. Mostly, anyway.), and that's not what I refer to when I say faith. Faith is a larger phenomena than that embodied by religious faith. I wouldn't call it appropriate to hijack the the concept just to reinforce my atheist preferences. Disingenuous, is what I'd call it, I think. The areligious don't need to resort to that to defend their position, we've got better methods and arguments. E: Bit later, but to be a bit more evenhanded, it's not something just the areligious does, of course. Folks should see the twisted tangles chritian theology has made of the word good at points during its history, heh, just as an example.

Faith is simply belief that either has not been or can not be justified -- stuff that does not have (in some cases, yet) an empirical truth value, generally (there's wiggle room in there for non empirical stuff, I'd think.). The unjustifiable sort is definitely more prevalent in religious circles, but it's neither universal among them (perhaps universal among the theist ones, but that's not the whole of religion) or exclusive to them.

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General Discussion / Re: Atheism/Theology Discussion
« on: August 05, 2012, 03:12:38 am »
Please, please don't spout that terrorism bullshit. It's only tangentially related, if at all, to actual Islamic faith and is almost entirely linked to societal and historic factors. The majority of the world's Muslim population isn't much different from the majority of the rest of the bloody human race.

Regardless as to if religion is or is not the key, that kind of misrepresentation and blatant ignorance helps no one and nothing.

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General Discussion / Re: Favourite Sci-Fi TV/Movie series thread!
« on: August 05, 2012, 12:58:22 am »
Chiming in vaguely for LEXX, even though all I really remember is the opening song and the dragonfly ship thing :P

Honestly, though, the only sci-fi series I've actually seen a majority of is star trek TNG, I think. Seen bits and pieces of the rest of the ST stuff, the original trilogy of SW (and I think one and two of the prequel stuff?), bits of the old galactica, bits of a couple of the SG series, a chunk (though badly fragmented) of Babylon 5 and farscape, few eps of Andromeda (I think. That's the one with Hercules, right?). I've still watched none of firefly because its name terrifies me (Anthony! *fistshake*), but I have read a couple of lengthy fanfics involving it. Did see the dune movie, but not the rest of it.

Just TV or movie's probably a little limiting for me, as I don't really watch either, but eh. Not like I can actually remember all the sci-fi I've read, heh.

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Other Games / Re: So EA is suing Zynga over the Ville
« on: August 04, 2012, 11:59:34 pm »
Depends on if the parasite's a coprophage.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: August 04, 2012, 10:26:32 pm »
Credit where credit is due, I wouldn't say that's entirely true. Some civilian stuff has come out of the military budget in the last century, definitely. What has enriched society from DoD spending certainly hadn't been enough to justify the sheer amount that gets sunk into it, though, even remotely. It's... what, equal to the combined spending of the next 20-something countries below us (in expenditure, mind)? Large enough to be farcical if it weren't fact.

As fact it's merely ridiculous and somewhat disgusting :-\

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General Discussion / Re: Hard questions that bother me today.
« on: August 04, 2012, 07:49:40 am »
This is why we don't let the philosophers near any real science.  :P
Psst. We actually do. :P

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: LP Civ4:C2C (16567 BC - First Contact)
« on: August 04, 2012, 07:44:51 am »
War? War!? War is hell. We should not step unto that viciou-- ZA WARUDO *grk*

Mudada. Kill them while they're weak.

Early game pile on, if you can manage it, might be nice. Depends on if the celts city's in a good spot and you've got (or can get) the forces for it.

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But Crimes overall in the US have been on a steady down hill trend for  a long bit now, and for the US we're near a 60 year low in crimes overall.
It's worth noting that that bit of info is possibly very much inaccurate, though to exactly what extent I couldn't say. I've seen pretty heavy suggestion that it's not that our crime rate is going down so much as it is that we're incarcerating ridiculous amounts of our population and the crimes are being centered in detainment facilities -- and not being reported, or counted. Tangental to the ever recurring gun issue, I suppose, but something to consider. The apparent lowering crime rate is somewhat deceptive.

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