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I will vote that Mayapan be renamed to Mayapanponpenpun, to be referred to in passing as MP4. Mayapan is insufficiently silly.

Nyet habla francais, friend.

Yeah. That... yeah. Yeah is all I can really say. Not eaten out. No out. Not good times.

In summary, it needs a cloaking device, a jet pack, and boob missiles.

Fix'd for Japan.

Why wouldn't be it legal? Not aware of any laws against rapid-firing BB guns. Mind you, if there isn't it's probably because no one has actually gone, built one, and injured someone with it, but still...

As for the mech itself, it probably wouldn't be road legal, but that's a minor inconvenience.

E:Ninja'd, heh.

Though usually entirely different, I think? I've not made a rigorous comparison. Perhaps in the future. There are worse scent accompaniments to fornication than bread.

Brain ruminated a bit more on the avatar thing. Let me show you how it'd go down, just with the sort of corporation we've got now.

"More news from the terrible tragedy on Pandora. As you may recall, just last week an accident on a scale so far unseen in the mining expeditions operation struck, causing terribly devastation among both the native population and the <mining company>'s infrastructure. We have just now received the information that sheds light on this terrible occurrence. <Person>?

Thank you, <other person>. Investigators have finally released their findings. What they've found is as sad as it is terrible. As we had known, last week an accident occurred in pandoran orbit, resulting in one of the mining transports being forced to jettison its cargo, an act that ultimately resulted in the destruction of the Na'Vi cultural center <tree name> as well as causing damage to the ongoing mining and research operation stationed on the planet. Investigators have found that it was minute damage caused by a splinter group of particularly beligerant Na'Vi extremists* that forced the cargo hauler to jettison its contents. Experts have come forth and confirmed that, had the hauler's pilot not made his horrifying decision -- at the cost of his own life** -- the damage from the hauler itself losing orbit and crashing could have been exponentially worse -- among other things, the splinter Na'Vi group had somehow damaged part of the engine and power storage, meaning an impact could have turned the hauler into an explosive of a scale unseen in Pandoran history.

Even now, the <mining company> is mobilizing to send humanitarian aid to the native pandoran population and help both in relocation and reconstruction. They have vowed to do everything in their power to make amends to the devastated pandoran people, even in the face of the economic and personal losses they suffered from this tragedy. Back to you, <other person>.

Thank you, <person>. Our hearts go out both to the pandoran people and <mining company>, struggling together through this hard time."

It'd be like the BP oil spill, but with rocks, more immediate loss of life, and just a little bit of proactivity.

... anyway. That'd be the sort of movie I'd actually... well, maybe not quite enjoy, per se, but at least not face palm at. I know the major reason that we usually don't get competent villains is because they'd bloody well win, but still... I could stand a bad-guy wins scenario occasionally. S'much more reasonable than basically lobotomizing your antagonist

*Bonus points, include "led by ecoterroist <whoever the hell that main character was>."
**This part probably being a lie.

2. Third time I'm saying this. THE RDA IS NOT EVIL. They don't want to kill  the Na Vi, never wanted too. That's why they used the gas grenades, and allowed the Na'vi to be warned. Besides, the tree was sitting on an unobtanium deposit (which is why they wanted to destroy it in the first place) and unobtanium is some sort of very complicated compound. A significant mass drop could have destroyed the deposit.

Who said anything about evil? S'got nothing to do with morality, has to do with apparently forgetting vast swaths of our history. Poorly done everything, apparently throwing out centuries of highly efficient methods of extorting materials from native populations, and when they actually do decide to go to violence, they do it in a way approaching the least effective method possible. S'vaguely infuriating, y'know?

I mean, hell m'fellow. We can make clones of them. Wide area gas based (probably contact) tranquilizer, send in drones to collect the bodies and airlift them to other side of the continent. Done and done (and probably ridiculously more cost effective than those silly avatar things, or even the incendiaries they tried to resort to.). They get pissed and march back across and try and stop you, you just do it again. That's just one of at least a dozen ways that would have been more effective than trying to drop incendiaries from within range of retaliation. This isn't highly advanced military strategy! I've watched preteens come up with equivalent strategy without prompting!

I just... when a movie seems to be trying to take itself seriously and a dozen little things is demonstrating that the antagonist (or protagonist, really.) is just massively incompetent... I'unno. Maybe it's not so much nitpick as just a crappy writer or something?

I think you all keep assuming that Pandora Mining Group, was a military first operation and not a military protected operation. With the overly dangerous flora and fauna the operation needed a fair amount of protect. They weren't armed for a war in the jungle.

Mostly my problem is that it shouldn't have been a war in the jungle. The tech disparity, just with the crap they showed, never mind anything hidden aware, should have made the conflict utterly trivial if the human side wasn't being massively brain dead about it.

And why does everyone assume the spaceship that brought them there is also military and loaded with guns? And even if it was, why would it be loaded with nukes? I think these suppose plot holes, are just inventing plot holes.

Who said anything about nukes? Drop a small rock on them. If they've got interstellar space travel, they've got the tech and the knowhow to dig up a rock of sufficient size and pinpoint drop it on points of resistance (we're bloody close to having it now). Air superiority is near absolute superiority, and orbital superiority is a notch above that. You just use a small enough rock it won't damage the ore deposits. Hell, you don't even have to drop from orbit! Just go higher than the oversized flying lizards can and dump an ore load's worth of rock on them or something. Problem solved!