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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 30, 2012, 08:59:49 pm »
Started food gather thinking I was warming up baked potatoes. Ended with some of the most ghetto hashbrowns I've ever seen, by way of a failed attempt at mashing nearly weak old baked potatoes (too dry, didn't really mash, didn't feel like adding water/milk) and adding a fair amount of ketchup (and soy sauce, and some tore up slices of turkey sammich meat). It's... well, for week oldish baked potatoes and only cooking with a microwave, it's pretty decent.

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I just might get home in time to dowload and run Unreal World. I wonder what that game's about, but judging by reactions it seems fun?
It's basically a wilderness survival roguelike set in northern Europe a few centuries back... sorta'. It's got a fair amount of similarities to DF's adventure mode, just with certain things fleshed out more. S'pretty good, for what it is.

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Throwing a line in for the super route, strictly because I always take the real one :P

Would mean missing out on the FMP stuff for a while, I guess, but the only thing I really remember about those is <nice sniper>, heh.

Though I did stick main-character fellow into the longest range one, most of the time, iirc. His normal suit was usually just too slow to really keep up with the battle line, so some extra range let 'im stay useful.

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Woah, major kudos for the heads up, J. Always found URW to be intensely sexy (well... except for the photo things :P), but never really had the means or the will to nab it up.

E: Aannndd gots it. Huzzah! ... back to playing Master of Mana >_>

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I just found out that some mad genius has apparently written a sourcebook or something mixing shadowrun and battletech. By the gods, I will have it. Like, tomorrow or something when I have an actual computer.

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Nah, that's actually kind of an interesting question. I just... I can't remember the specifics of many alien invasions in media (currently, the only one I can dredge up the memory for is EarthScorpion's Eva/Cthulhutech crossovers... which is sorta' western media via the lovecraft influence, but not animated. Also not a terrible invasion, heh.), much less any animated ones.

In a more general sense, most alien invasions are handled pretty shittily... X-Com (and some fiction for it... offhand, I'd cite Chryssalid's Road to Cydonia.) is one of the better ones. Mostly what I'm vaguely meandering toward is that a full out invasion is almost always basically the worst and most moronic choice a species could decide to enact (Sun Tzu laughs 'is bloody arse off at a lot of writers :P). Infiltration, long-term social engineering, stuff like that... all much more effective with less effort. Even with emergency colonization scenarios, it'd be a lot better to bribe us with some shitty knockoff tech for rights to the poles or something, and then work from there. I can't really respect/fear a spacefaring race who's first major action is to show up over the white house or whatever and say surrender earthlings.

More or less, most alien species seem to be ridiculously inept. It's like... you put a human in command and next Tuesday these chuckleheads would have control of all seven continents, but these xeno idiots do stupid stupid things and end up taking two whole seasons or whatever just to get kicked off the planet. I mean... damn. Some day, someone's going to start a show in which the aliens are smart, and just kinetic kill vehicle everything worth mentioning. The show will last one or two episodes  :P

E:Woah, buggery. List thing. What blazes, I've seen most of those and don't really recall the invasions as being particularly notable... maybe something that happened during them (Mighty Ducks, ferex), but the invasion itself was almost a... set piece, I guess? Weird.

E2: There's also pretty different sorts of invasions going on in that list... a lot you might not even be fair in calling an invasion at all. Interaction, definitely, but no conquer world/large chunk of geography going on, which is what I think when I think alien invasion. Damn, I wish I remembered that stuff well enough to comment more meaningfully on this subject.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: June 29, 2012, 10:32:12 pm »
Lawberry connects to booberry connects to count chocula connects to count Von count. One injunction, two injunction, three injunction, four.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: June 29, 2012, 10:22:23 pm »
We're just lucky to know Truean. True is less lawyer, more LawBatman-inna-dress.
Totally gave me a sudden flash of phoenix wight wearing a dress over the batman suit. Someone needs to draw and/or photoshop that.
I always see True as less Phoenix Wright (seriously, don't you guys know any other fictional lawyers?) and more like Atticus Finch. True has the...well...truth at hand, but the public is too stupid to see it.
I in fact don't! At least, that's the only one I actually remember. But yeah, whoever works. Dress over batman suit.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: June 29, 2012, 10:14:46 pm »
We're just lucky to know Truean. True is less lawyer, more LawBatman-inna-dress.
Totally gave me a sudden flash of phoenix wight wearing a dress over the batman suit. Someone needs to draw and/or photoshop that.

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Yeah, just chiming in a bit belatedly, MZ. You've got/had drink in you and didn't get behind the wheel. Regardless as to whatever she says about it, you did the right thing, period. Lady was asking you to put your life and the lives of other people on the road at risk for a situation that wasn't an emergency. That's frankly flat out immoral and insofar as that goes, you were specifically in the right to tell 'er (and anyone else that tries to get you to drive intoxicated) to go screw themselves.

Have a pat on the back from someone with a frothing hatred of people who drive under the influence.

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Freaking news sites. Poorly designed pieces of shit crashing the bloody browser every damn time I try to load it. Bloody whoreson safari iPad fornicator of dung beetle excrement. This is getting old. Got old. Want to strangle a series of fools. Whoever coded this damn browser, whoever coded the damn site, and whoever designed this damn machine. Choke them until dead chickens cry for mercy and succor in the deep of night. Then continue to squeeze their windpipe until it looks like an accordion the abominable snowman used to pleasure itself with.

... well, okay, I'm actually quite pacifistic and not nearly that annoyed, but the words got away from me for a little bit. Still. Is somewhat frustrating.

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General Discussion / Re: WHOOOO HEALTH CARE RULED CONSTITUTIONAL
« on: June 29, 2012, 12:48:03 pm »
Everyone complains about social cohesion and helping the less fortunate and when someone shows their lack of education or ignorance on the matter, we point and laugh.  Yeah, that's helping things.
Well, no. We (in this case, those on all sides of the political spectrum actually willing to engage others) extend our hand and try to help, and get either a metaphysical or literal gun shoved in our face and told to go screw ourselves because,

It's not that there's no attempt at dialectic, it's just that a subset of the political population responds to attempts at dialogue and increased understanding by just yelling that much louder and probably threatening violence. Frothing loon is as good a term as any for that sort.

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Quick question for clarification: are those 'dozerns of people that don't' also pedophiles?
If they never commit an act of pedophilia, does it matter? They'd be behaviorally identical to a non-pedophile. Lump hebephilia and ephebophilia in there too, to be fair -- use the broader term instead of the clinical, to fit better with general public understanding of the behavior... though that understanding goes a hell of a lot further than the clinical definition.

We're talking essentially about imprisoning people for life for thought-crime, on the off chance they act on that thought -- and that in the face of the fact that a great deal of those guilty of that thought crime never act on it.

Even without that. You're still going to have a significant fraction of those dozens who aren't. The position we're discussing is saying that it's acceptable that a dozen innocent people be imprisoned in order to prevent the one who isn't from victimizing someone. Or rather, that it's desirable to victimize many to an (arguably) lesser degree to prevent a smaller number of greater victimizations.

Or, being fair, the position in question is talking about magical utopia world with 100% accuracy, no false positives, and no corruption. We don't have that, and can't for many years to come, if ever.

I can appreciate the sentiment -- treat the cause, not the symptom -- but we just don't have the technology and methodology to do that, and won't for a damn long time. Until then, our way of treating the cause is close enough to as bad as the symptom you can't really morally weigh which is the better situation.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 29, 2012, 11:08:52 am »
Totally. I'm only about an hour from the coast, but the difference in temperature is usually between that of, well, the coast and a frothing hellswamp. Sea brings a nice breeze and usually (somehow) less humidity. Inland florida is a swamp. The air doesn't really move, comparatively, and the only place the heat has to go is onto you, where it congeals and slowly sinks into the inner core of your very essence. This does you no favors. It's like over clocking without a good cooling system, only the part in question receives absolutely zero benefit from the increased energy and God you're doing it mostly out of spite.

... Nad probably knows all this, though :P

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Of course, the much, much worse issue is false positives, for almost anything like that, not just pedophilia. For every pedophile that actually victimizes someone, you've got many dozens of people that don't, despite functionally identical upbringing or environmental elements and close enough to identical it makes no difference genetic code or neurological structure.

Are these people acceptable casualties, or are we dealing with some kind of future where big brother is literally omniscient omnibenevolent, i.e. a god somehow capable of a 100% accuracy rate and possessing 0% corruption? Because that's your choice of present/near future and a future with a vanishingly small chance of ever occurring, and there's not really a third option.

A lot of other things besides pedophilia and its perpetrators fall under a similar category, where it's a case of condemning many dozens of innocents to protect a different (usually much smaller) number of other innocents from a small number of bad seeds within the former group.

I do realize dr.p. probably wasn't being particularly serious, but there's some serious gaping holes in that sort of system. Even false positives aren't nearly the only problem with it.

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