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I'd be happier if they ditched the high elf to stay more true to the concept. We've got mermaids for hybrids, except they actually do something. Or maybe the sludge elf. They're pretty damn boring too, even if the apts at least give them a somewhat unique niche.

What I'm saying is that everything not human could stand some unique mechanic or another. I think the elves are the only ones that currently don't -- and tellingly, neither did MD. Barring the racial items, anyway.

Yeah... my mind pronounces both the same bloody way. The k helps my brain, but the c apparently doesn't distort meaning. I guess.

What else uses SC as a hard thingy, anyway? Scorpion?

It might not, I'm just used to people misspelling septic that way and seeing skeptic as the standard spelling. Corrected myself after a self check, bleh.

Seriously though, skeptic looks much better

Who wants ghost booty? I certainly do not.

If the Internet has taught me anything, it's that ghost booty is among the best booty reality can provide. Of either primary sorts, even!
Still, to each their own.

Also awesome, gryph. Manage anything from selling, or squirreling away in hopes of the value increasing? Fifties innit that far back, but still...

Fire. Fire will get permanent marker off a screen.

It's nice. There's just this little square around you in which everything melts. Well, gets lacerated into mulch, I guess.

That said, by the time you actually hit the end game that combo is almost completely superfluous -- usually the only stuff that shows up in sufficient number to really benefit it is the goblin camp, and a melee focused character is going to be pretty much completely immune to the chaff critters by that point. Cleave or great cleave speeds things up, but it doesn't make the encounter particularly easier. I've wrecked the place just facerolling it with a melee dude more than once without even cleave, heh. It's slower, but I generally don't lose much more HP or fritter away more fatigue.

But yeah, dual spike's actually not that defensively weak, due to expertise and the desired high dex (which boosts the trip/entangle DC) leaving you with oodles of... whatever the dodge stat is, that I'm forgetting the name if. A bit less than a good shield will offer, but still plenty capable of making most things unable to hit on anything but a natural twenty.

Their biggest problem is the same problem all warriors have (that only lasts until late-mid game or so, when you get the kit to fix it), which is utility -- and again, a lighter armor/high dex build (which a dual spiker is after, though they probably won't go finesse -- knock prone has hilarious synergy with spiked chains, iirc, so strength is desired, too.) avoids a lot of the armor penalty (and thus utility) issues heavier warriors run in to.

Cleave and numbers would be an issue, but two-weapon tempest and mastery generally means you hit fast enough it just doesn't matter, heh.

Anyway, yeah. Ideal stat spread for a spiked chain user is 13 int (adjusted for racial modifiers -- almost every melee fighter wants this, for expertise.), then strength and dex as high as possible and in that order of preference. Then decent con and luck if you can swing it. Non-abysmal cha helps out much later (for bartered buff spells), but some stat boosting kit tends to fix that. Wisdom is an ehn thing. Helps with saves but not much else. E: One of my winners (DitL'd over in the google group~) went with 16,16,17,13,11,13,10, but I think that was a bit more than stat buy can manage (the stat sets do that, heh, sometimes extremely), but it's roughly bloody perfect for a spiked chain wielder.

Was it this post? The one I posted a ways back is dead, but the one mict posted seems to be functioning (though I can't actually check on this damn tablet thing). I'm supposed to have a copy of the incursion group files lurking in my email, but damned if I can find the bloody things navigating the mobile version of my email

Ah, that makes a bit more sense, then. The police enforcement issue is still pants-on-head, but the money moving aspect is a bit more sensible. Though it still doesn't quite explain how distributing the tax output throughout the whole state is going to help out the local cleveland situation that is apparently getting screwed over to generate it.

Also explains where the kickbacks are going. Right into the salary! Good move, in a sense.