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Which is why I didn't say that, and was specifically asking to make sure the multitasking was actually going on

That's why it's a sanity check for me, y'know?

Randomly give away copies to all users starting with G and ending in irlinhat?

Would you really want to generate a thread full of escaped lunatics with random letters in between G and irlinhat?

... well, it'd be kinda' amusing, I guess.

Also, infinite logs. Infinite logs? Infinite logs. Probably. You have them. It won't not help.

Could try playing lizardfolk. They pretty much ignore water. Also, remember as you invest you only need DC-5 to prevent drowning -- iirc, the break off points are at five and fifteen (for normal and turbulent, respectively.). Might be five and twenty. Anyway, at that point you don't have to worry about damage. Lastly, remember that armor penalties count double for the purpose of swimming -- sometimes just removing your shield or armor can let you swim without risking damage (from drowning, anyway).

Protection from water also makes non-turbulent water a nonissue.

Library? Fan fiction/free ebook stuff? Where will, way. Sometimes, anyway.

Alternately, check thrift shops or whatever. Sometimes can get book for quarter. Get all the books.

It is meaningless to me to add my own class using such mechanics unless someone else can use them.

Mind you it isn't so much that I am thinking of recognition. If I am using ingame tools then it is for me to use. If I am using out of game tools then it is for other people to use.

Yeah, it's really easy to distribute addons for general use. Just throw it up on the forum and maybe sling an email (or drop in the IRC -- it's a good place to get some coding advice, too.) at DG once you've got it in testable shape. He'll probably slip it into the main site's add-on page.

Ah yeah, I was a cornac. I did notice Defilers seemed to have very few generic skill trees, but I wasn't sure if Stone Alchemy was a generic or what. Thanks!

It's an easy thing to miss before you're used to the game, but you can't get additional class trees. Everything you can pick up during the game is generic. So no worries about accidentally choosing a class tree you might not want to spare class points for, heh. You couldn't in the base game even if you wanted to.

It's arguable. For a defiler, either of them... probably a good idea. You can spare a cat point and it's not like you won't be able to spare the generics. If you're cornac and not higher, the cost is even smaller (relatively).

Now, personally, I pretty much always take the tree if I'm not building something incredibly strapped for category points. A cat point and six generic talent points for an additional 10% resall (to say nothing of the lifebinding emerald or wozzname's rock) is incredibly desirable. That it can be +30 (5*6) stats or +10% damage or whatever else sort of gem you feel like shoving into your armor doesn't hurt. It's a quite versatile passive effect.

But, the cost is hefty. It's a category point and at-minimum six generics if you're beelining straight to imbue item 5/5 and ignoring everything else (Gem portal's alright, but useless for non-alchs iirc -- unless you can get some alchy gems from murdering rand-class monsters -- and stone touch is pretty iffy. Extract gems is a massive money generator if you're after that.), which I'd suggest. That's the other part of the downside, though. The only directly (and unconditionally) useful thing in the tree is imbue item. Extract gems is a bit more useful nowadays, though, what with that particular late-game money sink of incredible power. The only other thing to consider is actually investing in any of the talents will lock you out of anti magic, but that's a non-issue for the defiler metaclass anyway.

Overall, you probably didn't make a mistake, especially playing one of the defiler classes. They've got generics and cat points to burn, really, so the "downside" of taking the stone alchemy tree is heavily mitigated.

I don't have a USB mouse at the moment and home is several states away.

Nothing for it than to make a tiny window via propelled encased silicon and circuitry in your wall, then.

Try to only hit someone/thing that deserves it ~

Or do what salmon suggested. I vastly prefer wired everything mice over wireless, but that's a personal preference

E: Or... I don't even quite know what the hell that arc touch thing is. Curved freestanding wireless touchpad?