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Messages - Frumple

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Burning something, innit? That's the better known one, iirc. There's been a couple nascent translation efforts. E: Talkin' 'bout dis.

And I know Aerobiz Supersonic by name, but I don't think I ever played it. Innit that airport sim wuzzit?

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Iirc, it's a board game. It... came up elsewhereearlier. The SNES E.V.O. may or may not been name dropped >_>

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Generally, if a country actually cares about preventing child labor, they prevent child labor regardless of the country of origin of the child, at least officially.

In this case, it seems more like a "we have no choice" scenario.

Maybe I'm optimistic.  Although, the "kids" are older than 12, right?  In that case, some cultures treat them as adults (like Dwarf Fortress, I should mention).
Yeah... it's kind of a "at least officially" thing. The archangel itself, as well as the gundams were... basically black ops. They were EA prototype weapon platforms being researched and constructed on a neutral colony (Think switzerland researching and building nukes for germany back in WWII as a hypothetical parallel, basically.), and the Earth Alliance already had a history of genocidal actions* (Dunno if it's come up in game yet or not, though -- checking over the text it looks like not. Still, it's backstory more than direct plot related.).

Things even up on the asshole scale later into the series, but right now... EA's basically genocidal racist assholes that wrecked some civvies and then got their teeth kicked in by superior ZAFT technology. Murrue and Mu's actually fairly decent individuals, but they're also basically officers in a close equivalent to the Nazi military -- though again, things even up later in the series on the asshole scale.

Which basically boils down to the EA being jerkwads and probably not caring about child soldiers (and wait until later in the series, ahaha :-\ -- also, the EA officers technically have/will have a mandate to murder Kira. Good thing for him he's useful ::)), but some of the Archangel's command staff probably do. Right now it's a last resort kind of thing, but in SRW plot especially it doesn't really pan out. They could have someone drop the kids off somewhere pretty easily.

As for actual legality... I've not actually seen enough of SEED to know if it came up in the show, but gundam being gundam probably not. Still... EA probably does have child soldier laws, going by support staff and enemy combatants and suchlike, and likely something closer to US law than anything else. ZAFT probably has a lower age limit, though. Unlike the AA crew that got shanghai'd, Athrun and crew are trained military elite and in roughly the same age group. There's also some other pressures on ZAFT for younger military (lower population, slower pop growth, etc. Plus the whole gene engineering thing. They go for more quality over quantity.).

And... I've now officially wrote too much, methinks. Still, general ramblings out, whee.

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Presumably they were never formed in Gundam!world -- which is possibly understandable considering the amount of times the underaged have been used as the key component to superweapons in the bloody canon.

Also entirely possibly that earth alliance doesn't care in the case of the kids they've got in the ship -- iirc, they're from a different country (Orb) and one of them (Kira) probably doesn't even have general human rights in the EA (or won't, once they go all genocidal on coordinators).

Anyway, mecha. Support attack I'd probably stick on whatever is most likely to be able to actually use it to a sexy degree -- i.e. someone with a hefty attack. Dunno about strike, at least not until you get ahold of the sword pack which hits a bit harder. I'd almost say maybe the combattler. Can the thing be ripped out and stuck in something else, later?

As for vote, throw two HPs in the layzer because hohoho and then, uh. A point of EN into the archangel, I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 15, 2012, 08:34:26 am »
They're in the waaallllsss and under the floor and in your ceiling and your air vents and they come out at night and dance and cavort on top of you with their many waving limbs.

But worry not. They take the eggs they lay after cavorting back into the walls before you wake up.

Most of them, anyway.

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I... thought squishy was a good thing? Perhaps it's just the wrong kind if squishy, I'unno. Zombies aren't exactly high on the list.

... most zombies, anyway.

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Spoiler: The best shirt pattern (click to show/hide)
... nerve shirt, sorta'. Not bad. Kinda' like a slightly more sane zen tangle. Looks pretty close to how most of my class notes ended up looking, just less dense (and no bubbles for text). A bit more dense and a little heavier lines (compared to the shirt) and things start becoming very hypnotic for someone with visual snow :P

I wouldn't mind a zen tangle shirt, just for the massive headaches a good one would probably cause people. Able/willing to share where that came from?

If I ever actually get around to doing a custom paint job on my car, it'll be a two-tone zen tangle derivative, done in shades of purple. Very few people will be able to look at it for longer than a few seconds (which is kinda' a worry... not sure if the law addresses visually distorting color patterns or not). Only thing that's really stopping me is the cost and the effort, since I'd have to do the painting m'self... Still thinking about it is a happy thought.

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: May 14, 2012, 10:48:37 pm »
Yeah... it had been a while since I played DotA, and fired up the AI map... late last year? Something like that. Was surprised that sniper lost his farm spell (that laughed and ate entire waves, after a little bit) and it got replaced with a fairly mediocre AoE slow. Was like... did sniper really need a nerf? But I guess so and whatev'. Ogre mage A++, will own again. If I ever bother to get around to playing multiplayer DotA again (maybe after two actually does something :P), anyway.

OM doesn't get many kills, usually, but by the gods your team mates love you and life is hell for the other team. Love <3

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 14, 2012, 10:10:58 pm »
Fucking hell, internet, what is wrong with you.
The irrational desire to get people to react with questions like "what is wrong with you?"


Nothing is sacred.
The best part is when it's terrifyingly well written. That's always a +2 boggle, because it means someone incredibly skilled has written something of... that nature.

Which is probably part of the reason some write particularly disturbing things. Just to see if they can pull it off with genuine style, despite the apparent impossibility of it.

... still, internet fiction being internet fiction, that's like <1% of 'em. Which means there's thousands of them, ahahahaha! And the number is growing. Day in, day out.

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: May 14, 2012, 09:15:22 pm »
So did I :P

Though I don't have much knowledge of league, honestly. I do sorta' remember sniper as being a fairly sub-par hero in higher level stuff, but that may have been a while back.

Sniper and ogre mage was about the only dota heroes I was worth a flip with, for the limited amount of time I was semi competent with it, but sniper was... well, it doesn't seem all that capable against people-worth-a-flip, at least back in WC3 dota.

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Other Games / Re: Dota 2
« on: May 14, 2012, 08:48:16 pm »
It looks like a level 25 sniper, methinks. Squishy squishy is squishy. You counter sniper by keeping it dead, iirc.

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So it's okay to make prejudiced accusations and assumptions about groups of people provided they're in the majority?

"You're ignorant about x subject? Oh, you must be in y group" is a ridiculously prejudiced statement, no matter what you replace x and y with. Depending on context, it could be a faulty assumption about the person, the group, or (as in this case) both. (Don't take it too personally though Penguin. You're still cool to me :D )
Did I say majority? In this case it's a fairly accurate and repeatedly observed phenomena -- the dominate social group in an area often downplays or surpresses knowledge of the problems of non-dominate groups. It's a fair jab to make the conjecture that there's a increased likelihood that a person downplaying the problems of a non-dominate social group belongs to a dominate social group. It's still a jab and only a conjectural/probabilistic thing, but it's not quite as baseless as what you're talking about. Though it looks like I was giving peng more slack than his intentions were :P

Most cases you're right, though. It's definitely wrong to make prejudiced accusations and assumptions about a group. It's not quite so much of a folly to note statistically backed trends (provided they're the good statistics, though!), heh.

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Frisbees! Or you can turn them into artsy things and sell 'em for a couple bucks total. Takes a stick and some fishing line, ferex.

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I think its stupid to make "Illegal Immigrants" a "bad word". Are we all in the third fucking grade for godsake? Sure, it may hurt someones feelings, but if your being called an illegal immigrant, I'm pretty sure you have MUCH bigger things to worry about.
Like being Latino? Yeah... I guess that is a pretty big trouble sign for a person in th'localized hellpits characterized by a substantial population that'd accuse anyone non-Caucasian of being an illegal immigrant :-\

And I feel that people who enter a country through an illegal mode of entry shouldn't whine that they're called illegal whatevers. If they want to be an immigrant, there's a whole process for that. If it takes a long time to go through and has lots of hoops to jump through, well, that's part of the price of citizenship.
Yeah... I'd feel a lot less troubled by this line of thought if I didn't have a decent idea of the localized hell a lot of these people are running from. Especially considering the whole "huddled masses" thing. Of course, and being fair, there's major economic issues involved (that are trumping the hell out of the moral ones), but that only makes us slightly less of a collective bastard when we do what we do.

As for the whole word thing itself... I'd rather we'd be trying to fix the underlying causes to the general problem (like our immigration process, the degree we're implicit with causing the unholy fuckups our illegal immigrant population is jumping ship because of, etc.), but if -- and only if -- recognizing the word as part of what can make someone complicit of a hate crime helps reduce said hate crimes, then, well... go for it. We can always adjust the law back once the bigger problem's been dealt with.

As for penguin's faux pas... replace "whiteness" with "socially dominate demographic for your area," and you'll get what penguin probably intended.

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Is... that bad? If they still taste fine, and they're not noticeably worse for you than the beef alternative, what's the problem?

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