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Perhaps I was misunderstood.  Here's an example.  My dad is an elementary school teacher.  He's one of only 2 male teachers there.  Men are perfectly capable of teaching children, and getting teaching jobs.  Still, more women than men are drawn to the job.  Same thing the other way around with engineering jobs and such.  I don't assume that every woman wants to be a teacher, or doesn't want to be an engineer, but I really don't think there's some male conspiracy to keep women down.

Of course you can make the nature vs. nurture argument there, but given how universal these trends tend to be, is it such a stretch to think that men and women are "wired" differently to have different interests?

Teaching... teaching specifically is a terrible example. There's very strong social pressure pushing men away from education positions, especially in grade school. It starts with the salary and just kind of works its way up. It's the same way with nursing, if you're going to try putting that forth. The chances of there being a strong physiological component going on there is pretty slim.

And then there's gryph's point.

... you ate three pounds of cheese in two days time? That... Not bad. Not bad at all.

I feel your cheese rage. It's usually cheese depression for me, though. No cheese is a sad state if affairs. We're almost out here, too

Gotcha' covered.

Annoyingly, I forget the name, too. It was only ten or so twelve pages back, though.

this thing

it's a thing of beauty

It... it really is. I don't actually see the palin connection (being fair, I also don't remember what she looks like.), but it's great even without that.

Misandry isn't exactly gender locked, same as misogyny is definitely a thing practiced by women, too. It's not very surprising.

Yesh, yesh, ones currently available to be upgraded, and maybe who's currently piloting them.

Quote from: Truean on May 10, 2012, 12:45:33 pm

He's basically saying the state has no sovereignty over family law, which it always has in this country since the beginning. As for his "if they so chose" argument, it's a puff piece because he knows that choice is effectively bound by the church. Thus it will never happen.... Kinda funny though.

No, I read it as "Look, as a Missouri-Lutheran Synod pastor, I can't marry you. But I think that if the UCCs or Episcopals or Unitarians or whoever are willing to marry you, they should be allowed to do so." It does bring up an interesting counterpoint to the arguments that (for instance), the Feds were violating religious freedom by forcing Catholic-funded institutions to provide insurance coverage for birth control, against their own religious doctrine.

Which never actually happened, heh. Weren't... weren't you the one that cleared that up over in the America Election thread a while back? Though I guess you mean the noisy argument in the media that was misrepresenting things...

If the UU's (as an example) have decreed that they recognize and celebrate same-sex marriage, how is it not violating religious freedom for a state to force them to NOT perform said marriages? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Yeah, that's a point that doesn't exactly get represented in the larger dialogue, and a pretty good one. Kinda' cuts to the point that the advocates against same sex marriage aren't doing it for religious freedom, they're (at best) doing it for their religion's "freedom." It's nice to see some folks getting some attention fighting for religious freedom writ large.

Any and every driving experience you manage to both survive and not kill anyone is a victory. It's a double plus victory when you do it without demolishng your or someone else's vehicle and don't maim yourself or someone else in the process.

It is a minor victory when you do all that and remember not to lock your keys in the car.

Multi-ton hurtling metal battering ram, propelled by explosions, only nominally under your control (and one mechanical failure from not being that). One of most dangerous things in the world, by the numbers.

We use it to go pick up dinner.