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Brogue's definite solid, for all that I don't really like it, heh. Not terribly enthused by the mostly equipment-based progression, mostly. Yes, it's an excellent design decision and no, there's not really any fundamental difference between equipment based progression and level/profession based progression, but it just doesn't tweak my jibblies, so to speak.

I still fire it up occasionally and die a few times, and I'd recommend it to anyone, but there's something about it that just doesn't click. Pretty but fluffless, well designed but doesn't draw me in. I like my classes and my spells and all that junk and I like what all that entails frontloaded instead of assembled as I go along, I guess. And background/lore is really nice, too. S'kinda' like how I don't really like Angband but I'm quite fond of, say, T2/Furyband or Steamband, I suppose.

It's just a very, very good roguelike I don't really like

Anyway, folks that like RLs should play Brogue. It's very impressive!

I'm sure there's more but these are just in this board.

Excellent, thank you! Incidentally, I'm marking that post and quoting it as soon as I see any other copyright/piracy discussions come up, at least if someone else doesn't beat me to it. Should help things along.

Could... could we take this discussion back to the copyright thread, or the "is piracy theft" one? They're like, probably less than a dozen pages back. Wouldn't even be much of a necro.

OP! This is why I suggested digging up those links! We've had these arguments dozens of times before, some of them fairly recently! Save us some time and frustration by just reminding people what's already been said!

I'm terrified this will be a snowless winter.

Ahahahaha, we haven't had snow since like '93. I'm not hoping for snow, it's not a thing that happens here. I just want a week where it stays below 70F. Honestly, at this point I'd be happy with one. Just... one. It hasn't happened yet, that I've noticed.

Florida's decided it's not even going to have the normal sham it calls winter, as near as I can tell. I can only imagine summer is going to be (even more of) an unholy hell (than normal).

Solitary confinement 23/7, nutraloaf, all day everyday. Lights on, all day everyday. Prisoners are not allowed to talk, except for vistors and thier lawyers.

I'll just go ahead and tell you this. One: That is outright and literal torture. It is full-stop worse than flogging them until their bones break, and any other number of viciously cruel punishments. Two: That will literally drive most human beings completely insane. It will fuck them royally up both psychologically and physiologically. It is a really damn bad idea.

After a prison sentence they'd go into a halfway house or rehabilitation or vocational education if it'd be helpful for them. I'd probably also inact a clause that removes the "felon" second-class citizen status after a number of years, maybe every 5-7 years without any significant criminal offense, they can get their right to vote and whatnot reinstated.

This, however, is pretty solid. It's seriously needed and seriously under implemented, currently. For most recidivism risks, it's the simple fact that crime is pretty damn close to their only choice once they get out of prison that leads them right back into it. Getting rid of the felon issue after a time would probably help, there, because felons are currently almost completely frakking unhireable. Job training, education, etc., would (and does, where it happens) also help.

I think making prison an intolerable, but brief experience will cut back on repeat offenses. I also think it would make prisons less expensive and manpower intensive to run. It gives former criminals plenty of second chances afterwards.

This point has actually been brought up in the past, maybe in this thread, maybe not. Turns out that prisons are actually already pretty fucking shitty, to put it bluntly. It's just a lot of people, especially folks that are at risk for recidivism, are living in situations outside of prison that are worse. Frankly, if a person has to choose between a living slice of hell and freezing to death (Because they have no home, no good clothes, no steady and sufficient source of food), well, a lot of people are going to go for that little bit of hell.

I... I couldn't resist

"Pirate of convenience" would probably be less pejorative and more accurate. It's not necessarily laziness, but that it's more convenient (less expensive, less technical/logistic issues) to pirate than obtain legitimately. I think there's also a similar term related to crime that I've forgotten, as well. Something or other of convenience. *vague shrug* E: Anyway, folks that pirate games they've bought in the past (Then lost CD/CD key/whatever) probably fall under this umbrella, too. It's technically illegal to do so, but it's an almost completely unambiguous moral issue, so plenty of people don't hesitate to do so instead of going through legitimate avenues of product replacement.

Incidentally, there's like a dozen+ threads related to this subject on the forum. You might want to go through and link to them, to help facilitate discussion.