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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: January 31, 2012, 01:09:04 pm »
Kinda', uh, depends on how you swim. Maybe? I guess. I can't tread water at all, or doggy paddle, but I can move pretty well underwater and semi-decently with that overhand stroke... thing. You don't necessarily have to be able to float to be able to move around/breach water long enough for some air, basically. S'just less tiring if you can tread or float, instead of bobbing up and down :P

Anyone can deadman float and then spin over on their back, get some air that way. Unless they're completely out of air, I guess...

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I'm more worried by the horrifying implications of a six year old going after a ten year old, honestly. And one year old kids can only mack on folks eight years and up? That's kinda'... something. I think all kind of creepiness flags are triggered in either case.

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General Discussion / Re: American Election Megathread
« on: January 30, 2012, 09:29:35 pm »
Less times than it will be by the time the presidential election is over.

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It's a bad feeling to read an article which you generally agree with, and which highlights important issues, until they come to their proposals.  Then suddenly you realise that the person writing it is a fruitbat.
Seemed less crazy than a lot of folks advocating the current system. Probably more indicative of the problem at hand than anything else. When your opposing a position that's utterly batshit insane, being merely fruitbat level doesn't seem that bad :-\

Emphasis not mine.  This is just... urgh.  The prison system is inhumane, so we should revert to a far more draconian measure.
I think th'fellow's point was that would be far less draconian measures, from an overall perspective, than what's already occuring. A, "Yes, it would be worse in some ways, but the aggregate would improve," kind of thing.

Th'person also wasn't necessarily advocating that, just saying that if going that far was what it took to fix (or at least screw up less) the prison system, then that's how far people should be ready to go, because the current system is worse. I can understand that position, though it's definitely a damn sight far from (even remotely) ideal.

EDIT: To put it in a numbers perspective, the guy's saying that if we're killing a few hundred (or even a few thousand) people each year and castrating a number of others, that's better than having over two hundred thousand people raped, many of them serially, in that same time frame. To say nothing of the millions ruined for life from the legacy of a felony charge.
E2, for clarity: Utterly frakking horrific either way! I can understand holding the position, though.

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The only way to sustainably curb the supply of guns is to reduce demand for guns, and the easiest way to do that would be to legalize narcotics.
There is... no explanation for this.  None.
I think the guy was saying earlier (or perhaps later in the article) that the primary cause for the increase in gun demand was because of how drugs were being peddled (re: the kill-the-competition escalation issue). Presumably by removing the cause of gun demand (violence due to how criminalized narcotics are being sold), the demand would reduce. Probably a bit of strawman involved with that.

Surely he could use this comparison to advocate use of prison in fewer cases, and various other measures for less serious crimes rather than "Death penalty/castration or nothing"?
I think he, well, was. It was a case of, "This is what happens when you stop throwing every damn body in prison, people!" The ramped up reaction to violent crimes was a separate point.

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Abolishing prisons and releasing all the prisoners would amount to a deregulation of criminal punishment. It would mean letting the private sector determine how best to prevent ourselves from getting robbed. In high finance, the laissez-faire approach has proved to be a disaster; for petty crime, it would be a boon.
What the heck.  Seriously, what.  I prefer free market capitalists to... free world magicists?  I'm not even sure what to call this.
Second admendment-ists, I think. His "liassez-faire approach" to criminal punishment would probably be "carry a gun and be ready to use it." Or maybe remove the restrictions on boobytrapping your home or something. Crap along those lines.

Vigilantism, in other words. Which... yeah. That's (more than) a bit crazy. Possibly better than the current system for significant amounts of the US population, but pretty damn far from ideal.

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Scary/sad/enraging part about it, to me, is that it didn't really present any points that aren't absolutely obvious if you spend more than about two seconds thinking about the US prison system, especially if you're a US citizen. Basically everything that was said in that article are things known, but largely somehow ignored, by our population. At least if you can get someone to think for that two seconds without beginning to yell something nonsensical so they don't have to think about it :-\

Puts it together pretty well, though. I'd recommend it for a reading for most folks, if only to shock a bit more awareness into what they're closing their eyes to. But that the US prison system is hellaciously fucked up isn't news to anyone, really, especially US citizens. Ex-cons are screwed, completely and totally, and a prison sentence has an implicit rape attempt included with it, regardless of gender, regardless of crime. These are known things. Most of the ones not in the prisons or at great risk of being put in them somehow just don't give a shit. It just doesn't get thought of, pretty much ever, by a majority of our population.

How to fix... *vague shrug* No flipping clue.

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No, he meant effective HP. HP equivalent counting the damage your armor/MR/whatever is soaking up.

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General Discussion / Re: Toonami is back, BABY!
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:42:23 pm »
Oh, and they're showing Char's Counterattack right now. YEEAAAAH!
Mostly oOver. Mostly terrible :P

The explosion in the chat when quess died was hilarious, though.

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General Discussion / Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:54:51 pm »
So yeah. My vote: Take your woodchopping tool and axe that mail a number of pointed questions.

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I vote wherever we decide to settle, we name it as if it is one of the other potential spots. ex: The Twice-lived City for the bay settlement.
Seconding this. Perversity amuses me.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: January 29, 2012, 07:31:52 pm »
... happy thread still has ~30k more posts and just shy of 400k more views. So, uh, no need to feel so bad about it?

E: ninja'd

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General Discussion / Re: Toonami is back, BABY!
« on: January 29, 2012, 07:26:21 pm »
Quote from: Forum Guidelines
If you post links to illegal material (files that are being illegally distributed, ie unsanctioned commercial game/music torrents/downloads, etc.) or post illegal images (or images that would have been behind 18+ warnings, etc.), you will be banned.

Yeah, that bit :-\

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I say either the ruins or the fortress. Flip a coin for it. Heads, fortress, tails, ruins.

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General Discussion / Re: Toonami is back, BABY!
« on: January 29, 2012, 07:22:28 pm »
Nrguffle. Actually, I had thought this was something vaguely legit (or, yanno', legal), going by the OP. Guess not, bleh.

... doesn't linking to this place break B12's ToS? Or am I missing something?

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General Discussion / Re: Toonami is back, BABY!
« on: January 29, 2012, 06:53:45 pm »
Okay, so yeah. We're probably going to get Ranma pretty much uncensored. 08th just slipped some frontal in alongside a nice steady stream of vulgarity. There was no warning pre-show. Maybe the stream's getting different treatment, I'unno.

I can only imagine there's going to be some hilarious backlash, ahahaha.

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General Discussion / Re: Toonami is back, BABY!
« on: January 29, 2012, 02:53:47 pm »
S'streaming fine for me on Opera 11.10 (which is a bit out of date) and the latest version of flash. E: At least once I turn on javascript and plugins, heh.

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