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Rings might have something decent in 'em (or at least a few more points of damage or something), gloves and pants if you don't find better before the level's clear, coal.

Okay, indulged in altsie and fired up a giant. Jacjil, is his name.

Giants are considerably more enjoyable in the early game than elves. I've been murdering things with a giant tree trunk. I mean, you actually knock down trees, pick up part of the remains, and then beat on things with it. It... it's great.

I do switch over to the fist-things Nao gave me for going warrior, though, for stuff like killing ancient critters. I'm finding it way too hilarious I was doing more damage <lvl9 than my elf was <lvl20. Though the giant is level 16, already.

Incidentally, someone said something about 10cm gem things selling for a lot. How much would a garnet go for?

And a 4cm diamond?

I guess we now know why priests aren't allowed to marry.

Pretty sure there's nothing in the actual holy texts preventing priests from marriage, at least for Christianity. Most of the ministers in the area I'm in are wedded.

The no marriage thing is just a facet of some of the sects and has come and gone from the mainstream practices through history.

Re: Sidebar: Does that mean we cap out at a max of 15985 critters on our side of the fight?

You are correct, I never studied Biology in high school.

Nyeah, not even high school biology covers evolutionary forces to any degree that's actually worth a shit for understanding the process as it's understood currently. It generally gives kind of a cliff notes, poorly set forth, version that completely gets torn to pieces once you pick up pretty much anything related to the modern study of genetics. It's pretty complicated, honestly.

So we got Alex Girl and me on, who else has made it on?

I'm meandering around Filia (That's the name, right? Starting elf town, anyway) still. Level 19, chugging through the seemingly unending stream of quests they're throwing at me.

Wish I knew where to find or how to make more alchy crystal things. Wish considerably harder my D-rank water cannon didn't do about a 1/3rd the damage my F-rank bow mastery + E-rank ranged attack does.

Did the dungeon quest thing, was kinda' hilarious. Chipped the boss's health to about half using the cannon (About 50 shots worth, bleh), because it refused to move while it was on the horse. Which was good, because the bugger two-shot me, twice. Then switched over to shortbow and cut down the other half in about five attacks

Inventory's fairly annoying, so far. Way too small, bleh. But I'm managing, and I really want to see if alchemy stops sucking later, heh. I just... need to find a shop or something that actually caters to alchemists. Filia doesn't seem to have one. No one'll repair my magicannon thing (Cylinder, tube, whatever)

If there's something I've missed, please remind me.

I've cut out the rest to save some space.

Here's something really frakking illuminating. It's set for florida, but you can back up a bit and see other states. Neither that income nor welfare is going to keep you alive if shit goes south. As Barb says, there's not many people that actually want to be on welfare. Most people would seriously, seriously rather have work and a livable paycheck. One of the things that homeless and poverty numbers doesn't tell you is that even more millions of people in the US aren't actually getting enough money to genuinely survive. Minimum wage is enough to keep one person going, by themselves, if nothing disastrous occurs.

Also, that John? He doesn't have two jobs. He doesn't have one job. There is no job for John. Also, house? No. Renting a place, maybe. Or, to be more precise, the John you're talking about is seriously bloody lucky, and not representative of what the problem is. He's also, as you note, screwed. And stuff like 5k for medical? Ha, no. Screwed. He won't have a house for very long, he probably won't have kids for very long, unless the bloody heavens smile upon him and grasp him to their bosom.

You want the government to start providing jobs? We're going to need a tax increase. Good luck with that Getting the upper crust to actually pay taxes would help, though.

Also, the job programs the government provides, right now? There's a lot of areas in the US that they don't really do much for, or are saturated. Good bloody luck getting work when there's a few hundred other people applying for the job (And trust, when I say few hundred, I am not frakking kidding. We've been getting literally hundreds of applications to freaking waitress jobs in the area I'm in.). Even more bloody luck if the job's actually going to be able to feed you, never mind if you have family.

Basically, the situation on the ground is worse than you're portraying, and is going to take more than just 'weaning today's culture off welfare.' The majority (absolute, total, majority) of today's culture is completely off wanting to be on welfare. Anyone, and I stress this, that tells you that America has a 'welfare culture' is either seriously g'damn blind or effectively pissing in your face. These people do not want to be where they are, most of the bloody time. They want jobs, they want a living wage, problem is, shit's not there.

Yes, there's exceptions. Yes, there's people abusing the welfare system and trying to coast on it. They are not the majority of people on welfare. Full stop. They're not even a large minority. People who say they are... they're trying to sell you a proverbial bridge.

Yeah, my little elf dude spent a little time blowing up armadillos and foxes with a magic hand cannon, so I'm down with this elf thing.

Now I just need to figure out what this alchemist thing's all about. Starting town seems to have plenty of stabby and twangy, with a bit of magic-kaboom, but I've not found anything for magidakka yet. Fire or lightning or something. The water cannon's doing alright, I guess, but... fire, yanno'? Or something.