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Messages - Frumple

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*mumblegrumble* Anyone know why process explorer dings the game's cheat protection? Had this happen with SD Gundam Online, too.

27032
Che. Nah, just getting one defeats the purpose. Thanks for th'offer, though ;D

27033
Basically, I hid a shadow chest somewhere on the Terraria server. It is full of valuable loot, but you can only have one item! Get there before the other guy to get the best loot!
... can the one item be the chest itself? Totally willing to move everything out of it and into something else (probably a barrel!) first :P

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So, uh. Giant archer-type isn't viable? That's the thought that's tempting me, currently.

... of course, I haven't actually played any yet, so...

27035
So, uh, what's the difference between servers?

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Other Games / Re: Warcraft III
« on: January 07, 2012, 06:04:07 pm »
Mostly-bumping to say I'm back from nap and the room's up. We gots one fellow, but more would be nice :P

E: Out for a bit for some self-maintenance (food, etc.). Back. in... probably 45 min to an hour.

E2: Annnd shutting down for the night, I think. Got some bandwidth/comp resource other!stuff I want to do before sleep, tonight. Will try again tomorrow!

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General Discussion / Re: Is being gay genetic or something else?
« on: January 07, 2012, 05:52:03 pm »
No idea what causes any of the above.
Probably the exact same thing that causes those sorts of preferences in heterosexual relationships, I'd guess. Gender preference doesn't really determine what a person prefers in regard to personality traits, and only somewhat in terms of physical ones. They strike me as kind of parallel lines of consideration (at least until they cross over, anyway, at which point relationships form/are sought.).

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 07, 2012, 01:13:59 pm »

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Influences, not decides :P There's certain folk that would use the sort of conclusion you were coming to for evil, unfortunately.

As to the second, there's a wee bit of a difference, there. I'll go ahead and state that the point I was making about logic not always gelling with reality is held as axiomatic by a considerably larger population (and it's also a lot easier to prove, repeatedly.) than the point that homosexual populations are genetically inviable due to lack of reproduction, yeah. They're also dealing with two different sort of claims; the one with the nature of logic, the other a physical fact.

Actually, I'm using the 'back up what you're saying' argument. Citation would be best considering you're making an actual empirical claim, but just addressing the numerous sans-citation-required points I and others have been making would be enough to keep the discussion going :P

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And there's a point where you're verifying so much that it becomes impossible to progress a discussion. For example, can you give me some statistic on how often things that make sense don't hold true when tested :P
Often enough that we've had years of scientific progression :P "Oh shit, logical deduction based on previously accepted axioms failed in the face of reality" is pretty much one of their major kickoff points. It's especially common in the social sciences, yeah, though a lot of that is due to how young the field is.

If you'd like something more grounded in logic, the rebuttal would be that 'people enjoying heterosexual sex' doesn't necessarily entail 'will have more children.' Pretty much nobody enjoys birth (Debilitating, incredibly painful, and possibly deadly, especially in the past.), after all, so avoiding procreation while having sex is pretty high on a lot of peoples lists, and has been for a very, very long time. All you get from 'people enjoy sex' is that 'people will have more sex if possible' (assuming the axiom that people seek what they find enjoyable; something that isn't always true), not that they'll breed more. You also seem to be ignoring that social pressure to reproduce may be capable in itself to keep the homosexual population reproducing enough, assuming that the presumed genetic trait stays strictly within homosexual individuals (which I'm fairly sure pretty much no one has basis to claim. Implicit: And no be pulling it out of their proverbial arse.). If the trait is recessive or rides on something else within the larger population, reproduction within the homosexual population is entirely likely to be completely irrelevant.

What I'm basically saying is, that while what you're saying may follow logically, you're making jumps you can't back up without unfounded conjecture. Considering you're making testable claims, that's kind of a deathblow for what you're proposing.

For some subjects there are simply no available studies. So unless you're gonna finance one, we have to settle for conjecturewaiting until there is one.
Incidentally, I've shifted that for you. When we're talking things that can influence policy or peoples actions in very meaningful ways, that's the direction you need to go.

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Is it really so outrageously unbelievable that people who enjoy a certain activity will engage in it more often than people who do it just because they have to?
No, but you need some numbers if you're going to say it influences procreation rate (which is actually measurable), or has any influence whatsoever on the homosexual population (ditto, though less easily due to stigma; plenty of false negatives).

Trust (logical deduction and your instincts) but verify (rigorously, when possible, but at least to the point of statistical significance when it's not). Not everything that makes sense (and follows logically from given axioms) actually holds true when tested.

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Other Games / Re: Warcraft III
« on: January 07, 2012, 10:10:48 am »
If there's not this honking huge list of games once you set the list (More or less in th'middle of the main window, below the 'Welcome to GameRanger!' banner) to 'all games,' then you're probably experiencing technical difficulties :(

E:
Spoiler: Helpful picture (click to show/hide)

E2: I'm back, and th'room's going active now.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: S.P.A.Z LP
« on: January 07, 2012, 09:36:20 am »
Fairly viable, at least with a sunspot. Pretty useful even with single-bay ships, especially vs zombies if you go with zapper drones. They tend to work like PD, but better.

Damage wise, they're there but not entirely the most impressive. Bright sides is they can occasionally screw with the computer's AI and even without that, a cloud of them can block shots from time to time. They're just pretty all-around useful.

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Other Games / Re: Warcraft III
« on: January 07, 2012, 09:31:28 am »
Well, I'm not currently hosting. About 3 1/2 hours from now. The room only stays up while there's someone actually in it. I'll throw one up for you to see if it works, quicklike.

E: Going to just leave it up, but I'm not actually there. Pass is same as earlier.

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I'm an absolutely terrible artist, so in the spirit of DF, I offer the following:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Please turn 90 degrees clockwise and/or enlarge to taste.

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