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... gotta' admit, that woulda' been a hella' more impressive trick than the lightning or whatever.

*With my settings, anyway.

O I'm aware of the "it's not perfect thing" with the church documents and Galileo, but isn't it funny how that works out all the same...? And, yeah, the church mythology pretty much always aid the sun was the center so.... Meh? O well.

It's... actually not so clear cut, though I've already forgotten a lot of the specifics. There's (well) over a century of heliocentric vs. earth centered vs. other debate in the church's history, much of it not simply dismissing the findings of full-on astronomy. Some of the cosmological systems that emerged from the intellectual investigation and debate surrounding the issue are both beautiful and fascinating; ultimately wrong, by current understanding, but not even remotely simple or straightforward. Iirc, the church's official cosmological system at the time of Galileo was based on a mutation of... I want to say Aristotelian, but I think that was the physics. Something around Aristotle's time, though, and definitely Grecian.

I'd still definitely say the church was in the wrong with Galileo and a lot of scientific persecution during the past, and present, but I've ran into enough of the (genuinely complicated) history to have to give them a fair shake about this stuff.

Somewhat ninja'd! I guess it was Aristotle.

Bleed it out, then leeches!

Seriously, just leave it alone for a few days, unless it gets noticeably worse. In that case, doctor. Maybe mouthwash, in case it's bacterial.

And, in come the Conservative Religious Police in America....

My first thought is... doesn't this guy know the reason the actual founders (I.e. the first Europeans to come over here) came over because they were basically too much of a collective asshole for even the Europeans to deal with? Iirc, the protestants were kicked out largely because they had a stick so far up their ass even the catholics went, 'Yeah, okay, you're an ass. Screw off.'

Also,

Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our
Constitution as a whale goes through a net.

I can't help but want to burst the fook out laughing at that line being in a document written either by or on the behalf of the folks with the highest material wealth in the country.

In 1962, the Court banned prayer from public schools.

Bullshit. It banned mandatory prayer, by a public institution. Which is unconstitutional. Personal prayer was not and never has been banned.
 

In 1963, the Court found that reading the Bible in public schools was
unconstitutional.

State-mandated Bible reading you misquoting monkeyhumper! Augh!

That was just the stuff I knew was off, off the top of my head. What the hell ever happened to 'thou shalt not lie'? Is the Christian elite only taking that in the soft form of 'you will not speak direct dishonesty' and letting misdirection and half-truths be okay, now? Poor other Christians, their leaders are free to screw them over, if that's the case.

Does this mean I could morally tell a person who's got two weeks to live they're 'fine' if they're breathing right at that moment, though? That'd make getting paid for doing medical work a lot easier! *To person with critical pneumonia* "Oh, you're fine (implied: At this moment. Not so much in a few hours, but hey.). Now give me $50 for the visit."

Oh, and let me ask one more thing:

Should selling things used be illegal?  After all, the company doesn't get any profit from the resale!

They ('they' being publishers, distributors, etc.) are trying really, really hard to make it illegal, yeah. Isn't, yet, but it might be in the next decade. I think there's also some odd tax issues with stuff like yard sales, but only quote me on that to elucidate on the subject

... how are donation-ran radio stations still going? It's mostly a tangential thought, but we do have cases of things being supported wholly voluntarily. Maybe NPR isn't actually being supported by donation, somehow Wikipedia is getting cash from somewhere else, and I'm guessing most of the churches in the US are, uh. Not sure, there. But it seems to happen, here and there.

Not saying what's around is sufficient to support as many artists as would like to be full time artists, but there are (at least seemingly) cases of it working out, at least to limited degrees.

Thats been the plan since day one, though. Why did you have interest in it? Were you just misinformed?

I'd gladly shell out a couple dollars to get a better looking DotA with promised continual development by a good company like Steam. Just because nothing is new yet doesn't mean it wont get better in the future. Lets just hope we dont get hats.

Yeah, my bad for expecting something with a 2 in title to have content beyond the original

I actually hadn't read or listened to anything outside this thread (and even that, only barely) re: what the plans for the game are. I was interested because I had an (apparently vain, heh) hope they'd actually do something interesting with it. I've a great love for AoS games, so seeing what they do with commercial ones is of natural interest, yeah. I wasn't actually expecting a good AoS (Maybe a good one of those moba -- which I still don't know and don't want to know what means -- abominations), but something more-than-what-was would have been nice