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No, but perhaps to govern people should know something....
I do feel that a little bit higher barrier of entry would be nice, some days. I think in my lifetime the area I'm in has had two known (as in drunk-in-public-on-multiple-occasions) alcoholics and one illiterate fellow elected to public office, as a sort of example. One of the drunkards was elected mayor. Kicked out (or resigned, don't quite remember which) part way through his term, but freaking still.

Problem being that it'd bias governorship (even more) toward the rich, at least so long as education isn't publicly funded all the way through. Representatives being from a social class completely disconnected from the people they're supposed to be representing (and unwilling to attempt, in good faith, to bridge that lack of understanding)  is already a huge g'damn problem in the states.

Maybe you should be forced to live for a minimum of two-five years on the income of your poorest constituency, just to let what that's like sink in for folks that think a low household income is 120k a year.


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General Discussion / Re: Best Bay12ers of 2011
« on: December 19, 2011, 02:53:03 pm »
... I nominate the Bay 12 community as a whole. If you haven't been kicked out or ran off yet, you're doing something right.

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Current reading:
Quote from: Chaos Theory
Archer considered her response. "All right, that's fair." He admitted. "I wouldn't trust me either. So we're going to do this the hard way."

"The…"

"I'm going to pick you up bodily, drag you to the steps, and throw you outside the mountain's boundary field." Archer said.

"… what?" Rin asked, not quite sure she'd heard right.

"Throw you. Kind of like a javelin, only it's you."

Spoiler: Extended version (click to show/hide)

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: December 19, 2011, 01:25:47 am »
MLP counter-suggestion: Friendship is Adventuring. Link is to mid-thread (but to an index), and I don't think I've seen a compiled, non-forum version around. Still, both excellent and long. Snapping up those two, though, definitely.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 19, 2011, 01:18:11 am »
The alternative being that everyone lives in self-sufficient communes, er, communities and the method of resource distribution isn't important, because (in theory) the group is so small and tight-knit and there is enough there for everyone and small scale market economies are fine as long as nobody becomes too wealthy in comparison or tries to extert too much independance from the group.
Which would probably be pretty nice if it didn't entail losing much of our tech base in the process.

Only problem being probably better than 50% of the human population would have to die to make it possible. When you've got seven billion plus people mucking about, there really isn't enough space for a system like that to work.

If you want to live a hunter gatherer lifestyle you can pick up stakes and head out to the boonies tomorrow.  You wouldn't even need to leave the US to find a patch of nowhere with only sparse contact with the outside world.

Have fun!
At least until whoever actually owned the land had you thrown in jail for trespassing. Or just shot you for the same. There's laws against doing stuff like that on land you don't own, from what I understand.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: December 19, 2011, 01:12:54 am »
Nobody Dies [...] Harry Potter and the Wastelands of Time
Read 'em both, both excellent, heh.

That said, other than Vejitasei Ascendant being unfinished, I have to say that it's mostly decent.  I have memories of Dominion Reprise being good, but it was so long ago that I don't remember very well.
Will check 'em out. Th'latter is pinging my memory for some reason, hrm. Stuff being unfinished isn't much a barrier to me (Outside of lingering desire).

If you ever see any good Death Note fanfic at all, point me to it.  I've been hoping for years, but it seemed to be a sort of fandom flash in the pan, and then just about everyone got bored of it.
I don't think I've even seen it crossed over with anything decently, but I haven't exactly looked. The stuff we got on cartoon network a few years back was pretty nice, but my fanfic-seeing eye screamed "nonsensical yaoi incoming" at me just looking at it.

If you liked death note itself, though, th'manga Akumetsu might ping your interests, if you haven't devoured it already. It was pretty nice.

(Harry Potter-wise: I forgot to add that Backwards with Purpose, and that trilogy in general, is also solid stuff.  Worth your time.)
It was :P I think it's been a while since I've read it, though, I think. Long enough I can't actually remember if I've read it or just something similarly named, heh. Maybe a re-read.

Almost tempting to start a fanfiction thread (or at least necro the one that's probably somewhere in the forum*). Only problem is then I'd feel compelled to make a comprehensive suggestion (cum this-is-what-I-managed-to-actually-finish-reading) list, which would probably take days and have a freakishly huge amount of titles in it.

*E: There's actually only two fanfiction threads, both specifically dedicated to ff.n, at least going by the thread title. Nothing on fanfiction in general. Hrm.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: December 19, 2011, 12:57:08 am »
Method's is pretty solid, and I've tried to read through Shinji more than once (Inevitably get distracted by something else part way through. It's good, but not something I can marathon read through.) Couple of th'author's other fics Points of Familiarity is just delightful, though, at least until the end. I've got a soft spot for familiar of zero crossovers, but I've already read pretty much all of them over 60k :P Several are simply excellent (by fanfiction standards).

I've read a couple (Well, one that I can remember, though I can't remember the name.) DBZ fics that were decent, but I've tended to avoid that particular fandom unless something's recommended or I'm really desperate. Mostly because the actual series was just arglefarglewargle, if that makes any sense.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: December 19, 2011, 12:44:40 am »
Anything over 100k words that doesn't involve completely nonsensical same-gender pairings. Sensible ones are fine (I think I've ran into three that were readable!), but the stuff where they take folks in th'original series that blatantly hated each other and throw 'em in bed... makes my brain melt. Tend to just overtly avoid yaoi stuff, because most of what I've attempted to read was just... bad. Bad by fanfiction standards*. E: Which isn't to say I haven't/wouldn't read stuff that's good, just that I don't bother trying to sift through it anymore :-\

... mostly just a size thing, though. I've been dipping down to 60k over the last year or so, but anything smaller than that tends to... not last very long. Th'100kers like to disappear into my brain overnight, heh. That and basic grammar. Punctuation, yanno'? I've been meandering through fics long enough that properly used commas, periods, etc., are like sunbeams parting a cloudy sky and the world bursting into divine chorus.

Fandoms themselves, I regularly read... uh, a couple dozen? And happily branch in to stuff I don't actually know jack about. Good readin's good reading.

*For folks that aren't familiar with fanfics, take this illuminating quote: "[Finding good fanfiction] is like looking for a needle in a needle stack, only the whole thing is covered in shit and everything is on fire." Mindless yaoi stuff tends to throw in some arsenic or something to the mix. Mind you, mindless non-yaoi stuff does the same thing, but th'yaoi is somehow more prolific.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: December 19, 2011, 12:23:06 am »
And I really want to read some good mystery novels.
Maybe something here? If you can stand to read on a computer, anyway. Gutenberg's a nice place.

Does remind me I'm having a dry spell for interesting (or at least amusing) fanfiction, though. That's always kind of a downer, at least until I find something new to read (then promptly devour it in <24 hours, going back to being slightly disheartened by it. Vicious cycle, heh.). Don't really feel like re-reading stuff at th'mo, either :-\

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General Discussion / Re: 504 errors
« on: December 19, 2011, 12:13:30 am »
S'been more around 16 or so (emphasis on the so) hours, here, I think. Is 11 PM here, been getting 504s since around 8-ish AM, maybe a bit earlier.

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It can mean you've got something bumbling about in the subconcious, yeah. Big caveat was "as a philosophy student," especially one on in the states where the analytic tradition is pretty much the big dog; it's not one of those fields where you can get by with naive intuition*. Basically, "it makes sense" is usually met with a smack to the back of the head and a "why does it make sense" (implied: You idiot :P). At which point you dig the premises/assumptions up and the teacher may or may not mock you harshly. The 'you idiot' is sometimes no longer left implicit after that point, heh.

It (intuition jumps) is useful, but almost never the point where you stop, especially if you're using th'jump in any discourse outside internal (i.e. to yourself).

Might also be using the term to imply "given the premises" (especially when the people talking share background assumptions, such as a shared trade), but again, the power of the term lines in things outside itself. 'Sense' is being used as shorthand for 'in summation' in that case

Point of clarity, though, if only to keep myself on the ball. The phrase can be powerful and effective (i.e. produces something functional), but it's almost never valid until the 'makes sense' is unpacked. Validity has to do with the truth state of the premise, which can't be evaluated until sense is actually made :P

That's getting into classical logic, though~ Which I really need to refresh myself on, but validity is one of those things I picked up being really careful about. It's a tricky word.

*However powerful and effective it may be. Considering how much fruitful material I've personally had produced subconsciously, I certainly don't deny its power, heh, just its sufficiency.

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I'd look up some statistics but I haven't a clue where to find any meaningful ones (and I'd rather not go digging through wikipedia right now). Really, whenever this stuff comes up there's always people asking for statistical backing and pretty much no one provides (and the statistics that are cited are often called insubstantial or corrupted or whatever, regardless of what they say). Honestly, the best I've heard is that the correlation is "inconclusive."
I'd have to dig up m'last psych book to hunt up the info myself, or possibly e-mail the teacher. Basically, the research that's been done has consistently shown that they can't show any evidence of a meaningful catharsis effect, especially over any lengthy amount of time. There is (in some cases, but not all) a temporary effect, but the folks (plural, unrelated to each other) doing the studies (same as the folks) found that consuming vs. not consuming so-called cathartic material didn't have a notable difference in incidences of violence.

Basically, violent people are going to be violent regardless of choice of entertainment. Other environmental considerations are considerably more influential (which is to say influential at all.).

Total agreement re: Obfuscation and difficulty of access, though. It's not uncommon for the genuinely important stuff to be buried in a research journal or under mounds of field-specialized language, when it's available to the public at all and not recorded under shit-poor methodology. Of course, things recorded under said methodology tend to be wrong, as well.

 I'd still trust something peer-reviewed and supported by multiple studies than just about any damn thing else, but it can be bloody hard to get to, sift through, and then meaningfully interpret that stuff.

S'a reason an informed constituency is a necessary component to a functioning bottom-up government, but that bloody well doesn't make being one of those (not that I claim to be, bleh) easy :-\

I'd still be surprised if there turned out to not be a correlation, but yes, I have nothing to back up my claims that there is a correlation.
The catharsis thing particularly was one of those things th'psych teacher I had apparently liked to drop on classes to emphasis the importance of research and double checking things that "make sense"*.

*Tangental, but as a philosophy student, "makes sense" is one of the most untrustworthy things in existence. If all you can use to support something is "it makes sense," you're probably making unfounded (or at least unanalyzed, which is almost as bad) assumptions somewhere along the line. I'm always immediately and powerfully suspicious of when I find myself thinking or writing that :-\

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Correction: His lawyers are using "He was in a hostile environment and that affected his mental state." The sexual preference is tangential to th'fact that the military isn't the best (/healthiest) place to be for someone that's homosexual.

No, that doesn't mean people of non-heteronormative sexual preference should avoid the military -- ideally*, the love of one's country allows the individual to cope with the problems (currently, needlessly) inherent to the situation.

*Triple underlined, bolded, max font size, flashing multiple colors. The situation is not ideal.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:47:54 pm »
Hey, at least they think the potency-needing figure in the child's life is watching TV with the kids.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:36:40 pm »
Fines are only a non-issue for rich people if they aren't large enough. No barbarism needed.
I'd settle for their personal fortune reduced to the point of the poorest person their actions impact and their crime tattooed on their forehead. Along with fines for the company. Barbarism isn't needed, no, but a little bit can go a long damn way in making people act civilly1.

Actually, freaking huge fines would be good, too, but it doesn't address the skillset the bastards used to do the deed in the first place. They can build back up after getting knocked down and then go and do it again.

1Civility is respect for other people's ability to kill you. Not the dictionary definition, of course, but that's how I like to think about it.

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