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Start from the top, work your way down. Shareholders and CEOs get punished equally for any screwups further down. Reward means risk, and if you're not keeping appropriate tabs on your employees, you damn sure better be ready to deal with the consequences if they screw something up.

Catching things is a bit more of an issue, but I think that'd mostly remove the scapegoat issue. Edit to the edit: For cases where it's questionable, do a X strikes then maiming. Screwing up that much unintentionally might as well be malevolent.

Violent people will likely play violent video games (assuming they're into video games at all), as it's cathartic. This is fact. But of course, correlation != causation. Banning violent video games won't stop violent people from being violent. In fact it may increase it since they don't have as many "outs."

Short form, and the reason why I emphasized statistical significance -- read, that the correlation being mentioned actually exists in a meaningful way and has the numbers to back it -- that catharsis thing? That is not fact. I'd have to go haul out m'psych book to pull up the citations, but actual (and recent) research into that catharsis theory has shown that there's not actually basis for that assumption. It (actions seen to be cathartic) doesn't have a meaningful influence on whether someone will or will not do something, in most cases. Iirc, it doesn't even reduce stress (in relation to the acts that are supposed to do so.).

Bloody-hell complex, and some stuff is not obvious. Some times what's seen as common sense (and/or the generally held consensus) can be wrong (or at least unsupportable, which is almost as bad in most situations).

Yes, to be honest, i DID have it off...I didn't know, though.

Think "Sex in Anime" for the "what i can't unsee"

Ahahaha, you haven't been here very long, I see. Well, look on the bright side! You haven't seen the worst of it yet.

You will, eventually, if you stay online long enough. Give thanks that today is not that day.

Twenty years from now, you'll look back and see that was actually your happy thread moment.

Quote from: Japa on December 16, 2011, 09:35:07 pm

I think it's more a case of 'if you enjoy reading about people being raped, then you likely also enjoy raping people' which just plain sets off alarms.

I'm not saying it's true, but the inference is there.

Which quickly brings us back into the territory of Jack Thompson and the 'murder simulators'.

Or books. Yanno', books? What might as well be all of them? "You enjoy reading about people getting slaughtered, so, yanno', probably going to go do that. Or hey, plagues. You like plagues, right? Obviously going to go make up some plagues and spread 'em around." Doesn't work that way.

I really wish folks without a heavy -- and diverse -- grounding in current psychological research would just shut the hell up about that subject. Last time I bothered checking one one of said people, the response was "Well, yeah, a little. Very minor contributing factor, sometimes, but not cause," iirc, and th'actual situation is bloody-hell complex.

Naively playing up on that connection is what just plain sets off alarms to me; whoever's making the point is mostly likely either not qualified to be making the point (read: They haven't bothered to check with the years of research data involved or they're not exercising a single ounce of rationality.) or trying to 'baffle me with bullshit' while they pull something underhanded. When you're talking about banning (forceful censorship or repression) something, bring statistical significance or go th'hell home

Distasteful fiction is just one of the costs of not living in a(n absolute) crapsack world.

The problem is that the current war isn't expected to end for anywhere from 50 to 100 years.

Wait, what war? There's been a couple invasions and some occupation, but I haven't noticed any wars. Plenty of low-intensity stuff, but no wars with the US involved.

Now, armed conflict? Sure, there's that. Not war, though. Plenty of mislabeling things as wars because it sounds better on TV, but...

So you throw people in a jail because they couldn't pay their bills, and then you expect them to pay back their debt while in prison.

Really smart, wonder why we even stopped using them back in the 1700's.

Don't forget increasing the debt in some cases! Gotta' pay for the jail visit, after all. It actually makes perfect sense when you're looking for a source of penal slavery (excepting that it'd be cheaper to just hire people to do the work; no paying for room and board. No one said slavery was actually efficient.).

More th'40k limit mention than anything else, heh. Not in ohio, so other than idle curiosity I don't terribly care (about the particulars, in this case, the legalese). Though I do mean 'don't terribly care' in the most, uh. Kind? Of ways. Something like that. Benevolent disinterest? Terrible respect for th'work involved (Law research possibly one of the few things more tedious than philosophy research, from what I understand ), but other than looking at it, th'stuff doesn't do much for me.

Anyway, [/offtopic] from me~

Huum. Asprin's Mythadventures series (Also, holy shit, he died in '08? Shows how much attention I've been paying.). Started using variations of Frumple... back in Diablo MP? Probably around '97, '98.

Other currently-regular user name (When Frumple is taken; between Star Control 2 and th'Myth books, it does happen occasionally) is Jack Thejil... which should be pretty obvious. Jack the Jill, just better sounding and better looking