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General Discussion / Re: Vector's Chill and Relaxed Progressive Rage Thread
« on: September 16, 2011, 06:27:46 pm »
From what I understand, you use it largely the same way you do with dogs. Start with it, wean them off of it. Presumably, it's primarily a stopgap until they're capable of conceptualizing and/or internalizing the actual reasons behind the behavior you're conditioning them into. I.e. re: School: If the student can't grasp that the education is its own reward, there's not a damn thing you can do anyway (that's going to do more than make a superficial difference, anyway. Grades can go up, but it often means jack shit for actual knowledge retention).
It's pretty fair to be wary of that sort of conditioning, I'd say. From what I've seen most (at least a fair minority, if nothing else) people that use it, use incredibly clumsily. Still a bloody sight better than 'do it or get th'crap knocked out of you,' though
Clumsy version's about on par with simple authority conditioning, though. Both have problems.
This isn't exactly a surprise, though. Most parents are completely freaking unprepared for raising a child, and usually in a pisspoor situation (time being the biggest restraint, from what I've seen. You can't work a 40-60 hour workweek and have the time you really need to do right by a child. Certainly not as a single parent, and it's pretty damned suboptimal with two, even if one's a full domestic.) to do it, to boot. It speaks wonders for humanity as an animal that more of us aren't stark raving mad.
It's pretty fair to be wary of that sort of conditioning, I'd say. From what I've seen most (at least a fair minority, if nothing else) people that use it, use incredibly clumsily. Still a bloody sight better than 'do it or get th'crap knocked out of you,' though
Clumsy version's about on par with simple authority conditioning, though. Both have problems.This isn't exactly a surprise, though. Most parents are completely freaking unprepared for raising a child, and usually in a pisspoor situation (time being the biggest restraint, from what I've seen. You can't work a 40-60 hour workweek and have the time you really need to do right by a child. Certainly not as a single parent, and it's pretty damned suboptimal with two, even if one's a full domestic.) to do it, to boot. It speaks wonders for humanity as an animal that more of us aren't stark raving mad.

