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You're also missing one of the more common stated (at least) reasons for suicide or attempted suicide, namely to relieve a burden on loved ones/society. One of the more regularly given reasons for suicide among the disabled and elderly, from what I understand. Might be able to fit into the B), but the external situation is neither hostile nor the major reason for considering suicide (internal love for others is).

Depending on certain other commitments, suicide might also be seen as the most rational, or at worse least painful, choice given a particular situation. It might be better than life imprisonment, for example, or when falsely accused of something that will leave a powerful stigma even once absolved of guilt, effectively ruining one's chances at much of a future. Also, re: Socrates, heh.

Suicide's not a very clear cut issue, honestly, especially if you actually give a sympathetic ear to those considering it. Calling considering it a disease or brain disorder is, in my opinion, drastically underestimating the complexity of the situation.

[devil's advocate] USA intervention seems to cause problems pretty regularly. Why not just stay out of it and let the dominos fall as they will? It's pretty inarguable that not messing around will cause problems, but what's to say intervening won't cause worse ones? In any case, is it genuinely our business what other countries do? Its inarguable that other countries don't affect us, but it's sometimes hard to see how it's the US's responsibility to do something about it [/devil's advocate]

Just used Frumple as a seed. Started off somewhere seemingly quite interesting -- very vertical, basically a mountain or plateau rising right out of the sea. With more mountains/plateaus on that mountain/plateau.

Not very many trees, though. I've only found one so far, heh...

There's three cases of that -- combat training, from one of the last hope weapon shops, fateful aura, from doing something you'd expect to get cursed for, and antimagic, from doing the obvious. I'm not sure if the slime tree AM users can get access to nowadays needs a cat point or not.

For the rest of 'em, though, they're locked and a cat point is needed.

Apparently it's perfectly fine for her to spout off whatever derogatory statements she wants to.

Given the situation, I think some derogatory comments here and there can probably be excused, yanno'? The overall blog post is very level-headed, a hell of a lot more level headed than most of the people in the demographic possibly being commented against would manage. I've lived among that demographic all my life and can say that with a pretty good level of assurance.

Basically as Leafsnail said. A reaction under a very high stress, very inequitable situation. Definitely not a 'whenever she wants' kinda' thing, and pretty bloody far from being out of line.

My necromancer became a lich. Whoo! And I finally did the orc breeding pits.

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Killing babies and pregnant mothers is pretty monstrous. Does it have any effects on the ending?

I don't think it has any effect on the ending, though. Not yet, anyway.

I think you mean "assisted suicide," there. It fits better fairly often.

Did you know there's actually an achievement for personally killing six of your possible nine escortees?

Was at home, some point during highschool, think school was out for some reason, don't really remember. Didn't really affect me much at the time (I'm in Florida, NY's on the other side of the country, so personal safety wasn't even a consideration). At worse, it felt kinda' like a natural disaster, or something along those lines. Had a cousin that was living within visual distance of the towers and another one that went up to help out with relief, but neither were hurt so there wasn't much concern. Sympathy went out to those affected, of course, but it was a very distant sensation.

Within a few years, we (The USA) had either caused directly or indirectly some substantial multiple of the number of deaths caused by the attack, ostensibly in retaliation to see justice done. Between that and realizing that terror attacks have done a helluva lot more damage to a number of other countries than it had in the 9/11 attack, I stopped really caring about the attack itself within a year or three. Blood price was paid, time to move on, other countries have it a lot worse, time to get off the soapbox.

That was years ago. I didn't even register it was the 11th of September until I saw this thread, and it's around 6:30 PM here. Actually had to look at the OP before I realized what the topic was.