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Quote from: Elven_ranger on January 26, 2011, 05:17:36 am

Is it fun to play singleplayer-only?

Yes.

Apply PvP to Permadeath greatness. Add griefers. Stir. No more greatness

That said, the easiest way to see how PvP permadeath plays out would probably be to check out MUDs and suchlike. I don't really pay attention to the things anymore, but they've gotta' still have a few of the bloody buggers running around.

S'pretty easy to kill people with socks. Can think of at least two immediate ones before putting things in the sock comes around.

Flailing people to death with empty socks, though, that takes a lot of effort. Less so if the sock's made out of something interesting, but generally quite difficult.

Then again, the colossus is probably swinging really hard. If the sock didn't come apart from the force, I'd imagine it'd kill someone.

Me, I'm pretty sure anything being deadly is an intended feature of DF. Otherwise, why misc. object mastery

P.S. Skyrim would seriously benefit from Chair-fu and the many related schools of combat.

No, no, my graphics card doesn't support it. Nothing the software side can to do about it. Integrated piece of junk. I'll try again when there's a non-steam demo, whenever that comes about.

... that... makes no sense. Or rather, it makes sense, but it's not a consistent position. It'd be okay, or at least less wrong, to rob a bank (mind, I'm not saying that physical thievery is the same as digital piracy) if you didn't tell anyone about it?

Or only if everyone else was robbing banks and staying mum? Then it'd be more wrong to actually be upfront about the bank robbery?

Deception as the morally upright position. I've seen that come up before, heh, but generally in more extreme situations

I do kinda' see what you're saying... it's just I'd get a failing grade in my ethics classes if I agreed with you, heh.

Some first-day buyer here should stream it, so us considering-buying folks can gaze in awe and wonder

Honestly though, probably going to try and nab this come friday if folks say good things. I'm interested, if the comp specs aren't terribly high...

Owning one copy of a copyrighted work doesn't give you the right to obtain a second copy.  It's illegal.  The mod is right.

Excepting the small loophole where making a backup copy (read: Second copy) isn't illegal. Which applies to some subsets of games -- or, at the least, I remember mention at some point in courts ruling in the favor of such things. Mostly applies to emulation, where's it's not legal to distribute ROMs, nor the hardware to run them on the original system, but it is legal to create your own dump of the game and (presumably) construct the hardware to run it. Providing you don't sell or distribute and keep all of it to yourself, or whatever. Of course, torrents would be completely outside of that -- those are pretty much always illegal when not being distributed by whoever owns the material's rights.

In the OP's case, though, th'critter wasn't looking to get a second (or backup) copy, just get one that functioned at all. Probably doesn't equate to the same scenario.

Buying a Mac version of a product when you have a Windows operating system would not be a failure of the product, but purchasing a copy where the CDs are scratched and inoperable where you would otherwise be able to play would be.

Obviously, and with exception of places that are very clearly no-refund and/or second-hand (Pawnshops, etc.) they would be legally required to either refund or replace the material. Customer-side error, however, doesn't seem to be something so enforced; it's why some (Not I, in any way, shape, or form) would say that torrenting a copy to replace a lost disc or whatever isn't kosher.

What we-the-customer are owed past the immediate sale is kinda' what's being questioned here, right?

How is this different from purchasing a game where you meet all the requirements to operate the software but the delivery service for that software is inoperable?

Nature of the delivery service, I'd imagine. From what I understand, optical media is somewhat more standardized than current and upcoming digtal forms of distribution. Hiccups on the way to progress, maybe.

Thinking, I believe the parallel would be buying a CD without having a functioning CD-interpreting device.