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You could a few versions back. Dunno 'bout now, I've never personally done it, just read of other people doing it (SA thread). I think that sort of thing has been messed around with for bug squelching reasons. All the evil twin is, is a hostile fugue clone, so far as I know.

Things (probably) get fun when you've got fugue and evil twin. Heh.

It obviously can't melt through everything. Cases in point: Corrosive gas generation mutation, acid spitting slug-thing. Presumably, the canteen (and waterskins, and camel bladders, and...) is made out of whatever material such creatures are constructed from.

The real question is not why it doesn't melt the canteen, but "Why isn't my armor made of this stuff!?" Resource scarcity doesn't quite work. You'd only have to take apart so many waterskins and camel bladders before you'd have enough material to produce a full body covering, and there's lots of waterskins and dromads must breed, somewhere, so camel bladders are self-reproducing. Canteens are nearly as common as waterskins.

My only guess is that the material must be formed into a vaguely spherical shape of fairly small diameter, or suffer a cascading reaction that ultimately culminates in a multi-megaton explosion. Experiments in camelbladder armor is obviously the hidden cause of the apocalypse.

The arguably less time consuming method is to buy or find security cards -- they come in different colors, and different color cards can open different colored security doors. Some cards open more than one type of door. The details behind that I'm unsure of, but I was able to open pretty much everything with law and maintenance cards. Once you've got the card in your inventory, you just walk through the security doors like you would any other door.

The arguably more time consuming method is to somehow destroy the door, either by bashing it down via weapon or hitting it with something like acid (fire, etc.). You can only do this fairly reliably if you've got decent strength (and a fair penetration weapon) or access to the necessary utilities. MK I acid grenade is perfect and cheap to tinker, but runs the risk of destroying something valuable on the other side of the door... like a square with four lockers in it (muttergrumble ).

The least time and resource consuming method is to knock the door out of the way, either via force bubble/bracelet or explosive effects (HE grenades, missiles, etc.). About the only way that can go wrong is if you push the door on top of something valuable (grumblemutter ). Certain mutations (phasing, teleportation, theoretically space-time vortex, but that's probably not going to get you behind the door. A door, maybe, but probably not th'one you where aiming for.) allow you to bypass them.

My favorite way to get around the doors, though, is to do just that. Through the wall, metaphorically yelling "OH YEAH" as you tear through the apoco-crete. Acid or burrowing claws is the quickest way. Hitting it with a hammer (/other weapon) until the wall falls down works, too.

New patch posted.

Awesome.

*Point-buy for mutations

Mutants are actually... weaker, now, in a sense. Perhaps considerably so. With th'random stuff, it was pretty easy to get three or four 4-5 'point' mutations, sometimes without defect. No longer! Will have to play more to see how it turns out. Still, control is, as usual, a blessing. Thank you~

Interesting that chimera and esper has a cost to it, though. Can see it for unstable genome (which is basically mutation points invested in 'buy mutation', and I guess the way to roll a pure random one now.), but maybe not for those? I'unno, maybe a smaller cost. +3 stats and directed random buy that can't be leveled... Doesn't seem on par with th'other mutations, more along the lines of a minor one. Perhaps 2 points instead of three?

*Readable books and papers

Ahahahaha! Folks, you really want to kill the zealot now. Drops a book that's about as valuable as an energy cell

*Renormalized the charge use of force bracelet

It did last a while, dinnit it?

EDIT: *stares at Argyve* Mortar... tube? Oh dear.

You won't be able to finish a quest and you've blocked off one of three ways (that I know of) into Grit Gate. Fortunately, th'elder isn't really necessary for continuing the main questline, from what I've seen. Just don't kill the tinker, at least until he's given you his data disk. All you've lost out on is a fairly small amount of XP and some autoinjectors.

Anyone know if there's a way to hotkey item activation, along the lines of skills? I've been playing CoQ via mouse a lil'*, and e-d-a-esc-esc (Activating my force bracelet and getting out of th'equip screen without removing the thing.) is much faster with th'keyboard. Also, for unormal, item activation via key (e-d-a, instead of scrolling down to the activate command) is a little awkward. It likes to leave the cursor on remove, and an accidental second space (to clear th'activation message) can remove the item

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Flaming hands can cause you to ignite, though, via setting other things on fire. Damage wise, though, it's pretty bloody solid.

'Best mutation', though, is pretty subjective. For me, multiple legs or heightened speed have been my MVP mutations, followed by freezing hands. (Stun. Lock.) Quills are g'damn vicious, and wings can make certain tasks (anything aboveground) basically a ridiculous cakewalk. (Hello saltwurm. What? You can hit me 'cause I'z flyinz? Ohohohohoho-insertprojectiledakka) Folks have talked about using fugue (time clones~) to make little artillery brigades (Equip self with grenades and/or missile launchers and/or flamethrowers and/or various!projectile-mutations).

I actually don't really like light mutation. Glowspheres are pretty easy to find (multiple arms means you don't have the 'i-needz-free-hand' issue) and floating glowspheres like to show up in the non-joppa merchants fairly regularly, so the ambient light doesn't really do much for you outside of a bit in the beginning, and laze just doesn't hit very hard. It pierces, sure, but so does flaming (EVERYTHINGISONFIRE) and freezing (stunlock <3) hands. Light manipulation is alright, but certainly not something I aim for when rolling.

Regeneration is awesome (hurrhurrkitekitekite). Carapace can be awesome, especially if paired with one of the thermal mutations. Horns are pretty kickin'. Most of the mental abilities can roflpwn. The gas effects are wicked useful in certain situations (P.S. Security doors. You are tough. The walls beside you, not as much. Also, salthopper? You are asleep. I am two screens away.).

I could keep going. Honestly, pretty much all the fully functional mutations are just great. Makes the *band and Crawl most mutation systems I've seen (in games) look like sick little puppies

Security doors probably won't be a problem by the time you hit Susa. Just take a round trip or two to the merchants and buy up some security cards. I had maintenance and law cards and could open every one I ran in to. Useful things.

Those cards are also pretty good trade fodder, if you find spares. Of course, you're looking at... a lot... to buy them. Doable, though.

You can also just bash down the doors, at least technically. I've done it with a cheatmonkey level 100 character Remember -- if you can do one damage to the thing, you can hold down ctrl+direction until you tear it down... well, probably. The things regenerate a lil'. Honestly, a decent strength-spec'd character shouldn't have any problems with that.

I'm now wondering if slam or hook'n'drag can move the things, though. Hrm...