Bay 12 Games Forum

Maybe a round of FA? Pretty much anyone can host it, I think. E: I'll open one up if someone can tell me how the blazes to password a game.

That's... pretty neat. Thanks for the link.

Lots of folks idling. I'm a little surprised there's so many people there, but I guess I shouldn't be. B12 is pretty active...

Would if I could, but I can't. Steam and m'comp don't agree with each other... hopefully someone else can manage that, though. A few more people probably would have let my side's blistering incompetence (at least until Hyper showed up, that is) be not quite so obvious. And probably managed to make the pod mechanic be not quite so violently irritating -- it's not a design choice that's a good idea for low population games, at all.

Setting it to DL, I suppose... the link offa' FreeAllegiance's site is going very slow, at least compared to m'conn's max speed. Still, if folks are still playing in about 20 min, I guess I'll swing by. Be th'first time I ever played the game, though, and I'm not really interested in getting good or even vaguely decent at it. No guarantee my comp'll run it, either... but I'll try.

Guess I wouldn't be surprised by that. Looking in to it, it apparently wasn't Blizzard in a direct sense that did the Starcraft 64 thing either.

Bliz's actually got a pretty solid record for console games -- the worst of the ones listed at GF is probably th'Justice League Taskforce thing, the rest being pretty good -- but they haven't produced anything new on a console since '97, nor apparently have they fronted the workforce for doing ports at pretty much any point. And D3 is pretty much entirely unlike what they did do. Not to mention the whole 'not on SNES anymore, doods,' thing.

If Blizzard does go and do something in-house for a next-gen console, it'll be something entirely new for the company. No real way to guess if it'll turn out well or not, given that. I guess development for consoles in more in line with development for PCs these days, though, which might be a minor positive point.

Won't be getting ahold of D3 until years after it's published anyway, so I guess I don't really have any investment in the issue

First and foremost, the mini missile pods are the worst against cyborgs, so I don't know where you are getting that notion from.

Experience, mostly. From my times actually using the things (I generally don't; they've got pretty low HP), they rip cyborgs about as quickly as equal-tech MGs and from further away, at least until assault guns roll around.

Also, rocket artillery has the longest range of ALL artillery, and has a good AOF, along with tons of damage. It just reloads terribly slow, and can easily miss at the longer ranges.

Yeah, I actually fielded some in a skirmish just now (well, 'just now' started two hours ago ). My previous reason for not using them stands, actually -- they don't do terribly much damage versus tanks, at least compared to a groundshaker or hellstorm. That being said, once you get a few of them set up, they're absolutely ridiculous.

The range is a joke -- on the map I was playing, they very literally were hitting things on the other side of the map. A volley of five-six archangels will drop a bastion in one go, and if you've got enough of them, they'll take out heavy tanks before the things get in range. But again, it takes more than one or two to pull it off, and those things are not cheap, in any way, shape, or form. The tech is expensive and way down the tech tree and the turret itself is bloody crazy from the cost perspective. Ripples aren't hanging quite so high on the cost tree, but they're still terribly expensive and, as you said, slow.

Basically, howitzers are generally going to be the better go-to artillery unless you're really freaking bloody sure you can set up and protect a rocket farm. Even then, if the enemy's doing something along the lines you prefer to do -- lots of comparatively weaker units -- an equal-cost amount of groundshakers are going to be preferable -- the GSs have over twice the splash radius.

Anyway, like most WZ, it's a trade-off. That being said, a critical mass of rocket arty is a helluva bigger threat than a critical mass of howitzers. Archangels hit from half-again as far away as GSs. Anyway, according to DPS, it's going to go something like ripple < howitzer line < archangels. Something to think about.

... SoulConomy is an infinitely better name, I must say. Totally should change the unit of currency from dwarfbuck to soul.

Or like a minute. Cheat codes ftw 

But yeah, doing it yourself can take a while, especially if you're getting all of them. There's an impressively large amount of tech in that game.