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Yeah, not really. Remember 200 years ago people didn't generally have to go work for 8 hours leaving their houses unattended while their kids were also mandatorily required to go to school. People who had wealth back then generally did have armed guards, and poorer people lived in extended families and/or their home was their workplace. Without police people are going to have to really take home security into their own hands.

Haha holy shit, wait a second, you think police actually help much or at all with home security now?

I can't tell if it's a joke or you've just never had the chance to get something stolen from your home before. Cops aren't particularly good for deterrence or retrieval on that front, from what I've seen. Having your neighborhood (and/or surrounding ones) not be a fucking ruin is your better bet there :V

I mean, apparently the majority of the ones in question don't actually live in the city, so. It's kind of an "even if they do, it's someone else's problem" sorta' thing.

Interim they can probably request aid from state or federal organizations, though. Might not be an improvement in the short term but it's questionable it'll make things worse. Stateside it's not unknown for folks' general welfare to get better with the cops pack it in and go home, ha.

I do wonder how that is going to work in practice though. Who are people going to call when they get robbed, or when their child gets raped? Ghostbusters?

Hell, even odds ghostbusters would do about as much good, so, uh.

Nevermind how common it is to just not get the cops involved in either of those to begin with, due to how largely fucking useless (at best) they'd be in either case

Quote from: Frumple on June 06, 2020, 09:35:40 am

Stealing commanders with air transports will forever the Best Thing, I think. First you steal it, then you drive it straight into the biggest concentration of enemy stuff and Boom, hohoho.

Didn't know you could do that. What happens if you self-destruct your air transport while it's carrying the enemy commander?

It's been a while, but iirc it still goes boom

Suiciding your own commander like that is also a thing you can do in some circumstances, heh. It usually didn't really, uh, help. But it was great when it did.

Haha, D-gun goes brrrr.

Getting past the d-gun always was the biggest problem, yeah. Still, it was possible, and when it worked... just perfection.

Stealing commanders with air transports will forever the Best Thing, I think. First you steal it, then you drive it straight into the biggest concentration of enemy stuff and Boom, hohoho.

But yeah, if you can get them working definitely check out the mods. Iirc one of the big ones added ubiquitous gigantic artillery and it was great

Huh. I almost bought War Wind the other day. Can't seem to get it to work at all, so I guess it's good I didn't.


Unrelated, but I'm having a problem with the GOG standalone installers(I don't use GOG Galaxy). There's no text on any buttons, or the checkmark for saying you read the EULA. While it's simple enough that I can run it without text, it's kind of annoying.

You'd want the sequel, anyway

Pretty neat game, if kinda' janky to play. That said I'd definitely expect either to have trouble running in modern systems. Good luck figuring things out if you give it another go, though.

E: Oh, wait, just noticed it's going for free. Nice, ha.

I mean, dude reacted to "people in front of me" with "guess I'll keep going, then". Maybe he wasn't trying to be as murderous as he could have been but "accident" goes out the window when you're driving towards a crowd of people.

Speccing my archer MC with some brawler/fist skill finally paid off. Last fight of an arena attempt, me and my dopey ass pickups in mostly iron armor and crap versus a team decked out in entirely mythril kit, kinda' rough to begin with, but we doin' alright, hanging in there, starting to make gains -- one of the asshole enemies promptly breaks like half my team's weapons and proceeds to try to beat my captain to death with a mythril flail.

But it's okay. Cat person ship captain promptly spends the next three turns after their bow got broken just beating. The. Shit. Out of weapon breaking flail man with their bare catman paws. End of second turn they even triggered their counter push, knocking dead man flailing even further away from the remaining fighters, apparently just so catcaptain could finish them off personally. Which they do.

So we win, after my archer catcaptain beat a man to (near) death bare handed.

What's the de-escalation plan for the protesters?  Have they even indicated the things that would make them stop protesting / rioting?

I mean something practical, not just "we want justice!"  What do they want other than just having the perpetrators put in jail?  If that won't appease them, what will?  I don't think a public execution is a realistic demand, even though I'm sure that what some people want.

Well, if the police would stop brutalizing and murdering people it'd probably be a good start. So the tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets, and vehicular assault stopping would be a good starting point. Could work on proper prosecution for the murderer and his accomplices that kicked this latest batch of protests off, too, maybe -- that seems to be the major call for Minneapolis in particular, they don't just want the direct murderer they want the fuckers who sat there and helped him, too. Then cleaning up police in general, really. Disbanding precincts that have problems (which might be all of them I'unno :V) and replacing them wholesale might be a good step 1.

Really, if you want to appease the protesters shit is pretty damn straightforward. Put the boot to the jackboot thugs in uniform terrorizing communities and maiming/murdering people with near impunity, get economic relief for areas in serious trouble. None of this had to happen, and if you remove or mitigate the underlying causes (shit lives, bastard cops making them worse) it can stop. If you're more interested in brutalizing and maiming protesters, well, it can keep going I guess.