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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 31, 2020, 07:15:40 am »
Nah, it's not particularly hard to not be crippled by it, you just have to accept or learn to ignore that you're kind of a piece of shit in some ways that prefers you and your family/immediate community's comfort over the lives or happiness of others and then just... go about your day to day.

Shit's remarkably easy when you're sufficiently insulated from the effects of doing so, really, and avoiding participation or whatever immiserates you. Maybe you spend a few days or weeks really caring about it or having a breakdown or something, but then you get distracted by things like needing to eat, yourself, or your family needing medical care, or whatever, and most of the issue cheerfully regulates itself to the back of your mind. Maybe you'll try to mitigate the harm you do after you notice how fucked up things are, but the degree you'll do that will probably be pretty limited. Part because it's hard to indefinitely care about indefinite suffering, part because this system will fuck you if you try to disengage or push for significant reform. So on and so forth.

Speaking from experience :-\

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 31, 2020, 12:37:19 am »
Uh, that's pretty questionable. Capitalism's killed a fuckton of people, it's just maybe better at shirking the blame for it.

Though I guess if you mean loser the one with the highest body count then maybe, ha.

Some sort of mixed economy probably is the way to go, though. Market stuff's useful under some circumstances, but you got to keep that shit on a tight leash and away from anything super important or things start deteriorating.

E: Though I think that edit went from the loser to a loser, which would probably be more accurate. Most of the major economic ideologies have a pile of bodies behind them that'd make a european colonist blush at this point, really...

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There have been multiple different instances of police attempting to escalate violence, including smashing the windows of the AutoZone that burned down before it was on fire and smashing windows in another building more recently. But I'm sure that there's a perfectly reasonable and logical explanation for it.
Interesting. Source?
Don't have any offhand, but there's constant reports of police responding to the peaceful protests attempted with rubber bullets, tear gas, and pepper spray. Seen less in the way of reliable sightings of cops (plainclothes or otherwise) getting their property damage on, but the cops have been going balls to the fucking wall to try to escalate shit, all over the place. How well that turns out for them varies from place to place, though.

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No reason given. Probably because they want more attention. Either that or random destruction.
There's a police precinct office or whatever in the same building. They probably weren't there for CNN.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 29, 2020, 07:05:44 pm »
He could have been arrested a day before my comment and shit would have still been slow, nevermind the rest of the mess related to the murderous sack of shit or everything else related to the situation at hand. That a previous incident was even slower doesn't somehow change that, ha.

Trial can take its time if it needs it, it shouldn't take days to clap cuffs on a fucker on tape murdering someone. Not even a cop, and if our justice system wasn't a goddamn farce, especially not a cop. You can figure out the rest from there, if there's a rest that needs figuring out.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:25:36 pm »
Pt's talking a retreet, so trump didn't actually say it, just signal boosted and supported it.

The tweet where trump was saying the natguard would start extrajudicially murdering looters was a different tweet altogether.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 29, 2020, 11:33:03 am »
I'm not aware of all the "american ways" to do things in their country, but honest question : how are people accepted in the police forces in the USA ? Is there a country-wide selection system or is it different from states to states ?
It's different from precinct to precinct. There is no country wide standard. There is no state wide standard in many (most?) states. Sometimes there's not even a goddamn county or city wide standard.

What the problems are takes more energy than I have right now to mention, though. There's a fuckton of them, from lack of accountability to pervasive racism issues to problems with employment standards and HR issues to a host of other shite. There's not a single primary problem though, this is the effect of decades or centuries of pervasive rot on a number of different fronts, growing from a foundation that was itself pretty goddamn shit.

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... like, man, "have to" is a hell of a turn of phrase
When you are married and have kids, your perspective on "have to" changes dramatically...
I mean, the number of folks in my area that meet those conditions without having a pool or trying to maintain one is... not small. 'Cause, y'know, lotta' folks 'round here are frikkin' poor. Little kiddy pool might be a thing (though even that's fairly rare), but it doesn't sound like you're talking the cheap-ish inflatable shit.

Your perspective does change, but not towards the direction of a pool being a necessity, from what I've noticed, basically. Rather the opposite, even.

Any case, the statement that it's a necessity is a pretty damn alien mindset to me stands, heh. Back when I was a kid I think we tried the inflatable thing like... one summer, and then just kinda' went without most years.

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... like, man, "have to" is a hell of a turn of phrase unless someone involved actually requires water based therapy for health reasons or somethin', and it doesn't sound like it with a two foot deep pool. My mostly deprived poor ass can't really wrap my head around that mentality, not gon' lie.

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There's not much righteous here, just desperation in the face of folks getting literally murdered on goddamn camera and the powers that be not just doing fuckall about it but apparently actively trying to prevent anything being done. Smashing up shops is at least a hell of a lot more righteous than fuckin' murder or trying to go to bat for a straight up no-question, literally on goddamn tape, murderer.

Nothing really much coordinated about it, though, just a matter of most of the folks involved having a relatively specific source of ire. You don't need coordination to know who ain't local or who don't got your back, most of the time.

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Other Games / Re: Terraria - 1.3 released. Big Patch!
« on: May 29, 2020, 12:15:07 am »
Dunno, heh. Pretty sure there's some cosmetic mods that spruce up some of the weather effects and stuff like that, but I haven't used them. There's certainly plenty that adds more stuff, more critters, enemies, invasions, biomes, etc. At least one that adds a new moon event, probably other things I'm forgetting.

Not aware off the top of my head that goes as far as overhaul in regards to what overhaul specifically does, though, ala seasons or burning down your house. There might be, but I can't recall playing any off the top of my head.

All seriousness, especially with modloader being on steam now just popping overhaul on and seeing if you like it should be pretty painless, especially if you're not trying to throw a bunch of mods together and have no reason to struggle with out of memory issues.

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The Minneapolis riots in response to George Floyd's death murder on camera by a cop have now set the Police Precinct on fire (after the cops and AG came out saying prosecution of the cop that murdered someone on camera with zero mitigating circumstance wasn't justified). National Guard has been called, but not yet arrived. Looting and destruction of shops is ongoing.
Getting pretty ugly out there...
Added a little context there.

I've seen a bemusing number of Facebook friends cheering on the looters and arsonists.
Like, "fuck yeah! They burnt down McDonald's! That'll teach those abusive cops!" ...or something? I don't know. ???   
Context here is that most of the major building damage has been hitting chain stores and shit, out of towner stuff, generally the kind of thing that's pretty predatory and fucks with that local economy by leveraging out of area resources to undercut competitors and crap. Most of the impetus behind that is 'cause the cops in the area the police murdered someone on camera at is majority (Like 90+% or something) staffed by non-locals, too. So they're basically (primarily, if not entirely -- riots are messy shit, maybe don't act like an abusive occupying army and/or go to bat for explicit murder and trigger them) punching back at folks from outside the area, that's come in and shat on the locals, one way or another.

Step one to not getting your business hit in a riot like this: Don't try too hard to put locals out of business, also treat your local workers really damn well, maybe make sure you're throwing your weight rapidly and without hesitation behind bringing a fucking murderer to very speedy account. Simple things, really.

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Other Games / Re: Terraria - 1.3 released. Big Patch!
« on: May 28, 2020, 10:59:54 pm »
Like, I'm not super fond of overhaul, personally? I like to mod the hell out of the game, but didn't particularly enjoy overhaul, specifically, when I gave it a shot. It does indeed have seasons and fire and a host of other stuff.

Still, particularly if you've already spent some time in vanilla just... give overhaul a try. Bonus for overhaul I think you can run magic storage (and auto-trash, and vein miner, and boss checklist/census/recipe browser, ha) with it, too, for that exponentially-better-than-the-base-game experience. Or other mods, for that matter. Vanilla's, well, vanilla, heh. it doesn't have magic storage or auto-trash or vein miner

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: May 28, 2020, 09:22:39 pm »
I mean, non-violent protest did accomplish something. It got the protesters assaulted by the fuckers going to bat for a murderer. That's something, right?

It was only particularly helpful for the folks going to bat for someone that murdered somebody on camera, though, I'll give that much. Just don't think that's the kind of helpful that does much good for the protesters, ha.

Correlation does not equal causation. Incident happened Monday. By Tuesday afternoon they were fired. It's currently Thursday. Under no reasonable definition has there been any delay of justice thus far in this case.
Horseshit, the man (with a lengthy history of fucking abusing people and getting away with it) who murdered someone on bloody camera is still, as far as I'm aware, not arrested, in jail, or also dead. Justice is pretty damn delayed right now, nevermind it was delayed before the shit even put another person in a grave.

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If that was reference to me, though, I wasn't high at all. Maybe tired, but probably not much more than usual. So you'd need to be like... negative high or something to fail to top that. On some sort of anti-matter cannabinoid, I guess.

... drugs that self-annihilate on introduction to your system would be pretty darn sci-fi, tho'. Just throwing that one out there.

But yeah, I'm just saying if the game detects dong stations, quietly tweak the disaster rate up a few percent or somethin'. More games could stand something like that, I think.

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