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That is very cool and as far as I can tell very much outside the norm for most of the rest of the country.

By leaps and fucking bounds, yes.

Milk producers are pouring their products into ditches because "there isn't enough demand", and yet, anecdotally at my grocery store, milk stocks are showing signs of depletion. (Pre-covid you never saw the whole milk section even dented compared to skim and 2%. Now, Whole Milk is like 95% gone while the other milk products, while being low, still have more stock.)

I would not be surprised if many producers, while legitimately taking a hit, are overstating it so they can reap more subsidies and protections. Fucking dairy industry has been doing this for decades already.

Wouldn't surprise me, either, but it's also possibly legit. Think about how much milk demand came from schools alone, or various coffee shops or eateries or whatever, most of which are now closed or operating at significantly reduced capacity (what with people not wanting to catch or spread the crow plague). Some of that would shift to at-home, but not all of it, and supply lines going to grocery stores both might not be able to keep up with what demand has shifted, and not able to rapidly shift to accommodate what spare supply is being freed up elsewhere.

So you'd have less demand in general, and significant amounts of supply previously intended to go to, say, those shitty one-serving milk cartons in cafeterias, not able to immediately transition into larger gallon/half-gallon/whatever that stock stores, that are now at higher demand. Enough demand loss overall suppliers can't sell all their stuff, on top of struggling supply in specific areas. Supposedly a lot of what's been going on with toilet paper is due to similar issues.

This surprised me, how is wasting product helpful? Why would they dump milk into ditches? This is wasteful and helps no one

Storage is a thing, especially with product that can go bad fairly rapidly. If you got no where to put it and no reasonable way to slow down production, it goes to waste. It's not helpful, but at least portions of it also probably isn't avoidable, at least as conditions currently stand.

It might be avoidable if there were, say, a significant effort by government actors to step in and coordinate/manage the logistics and whatnot involved, but, well, this is the ameripol thread, it's an issue with country-wide scope, and our current federal government is literally worse than useless in a number of ways

Didn't MSH advocate it? It's pretty inherent to the whole "no goddamn billionaires" thing. I guess you don't necessarily need to directly confiscate it to do that, but it'd probably help

Pick on bezos as much as you please, though, the companies he has influence on immiserates its employees constantly, when they're not actively trying to murder or maim their workers. Like most billionaires I'm aware of, he's someone it'd probably be ethically neutral at worst to guillotine. Merely reducing the wealth concentration he's on top of to something not fucking insane would be a less final option

Eh, I mean, I had read Magi before, or at least a good chunk of it, for what it's worth. Wasn't even really miscommunication, per se, as other than that the first few volumes passed my boss's muster without much of a problem.

I just didn't remember the gigantic djinn tiddies with the nipple chain thing. Boss wasn't okay with the huge genie bazongas or their chains

I've been paid to shop for manga before, heh. More than once, even, so far. Didn't spend much time reading it (mostly just a quick content check*), when the orders finally came in, but still.

* In which I found out I totally did not remember the gigantic djinn tiddies in Magi. Whoops.

The best we can hope for is he chooses a reasonable VP and he dies in office.

I mean, no, the best we can hope for is the dems manage to take the Senate, and biden or whatever replaces him is willing to rubber stamp whatever manage to get past congress. Matters a lot less what your POTUS is if they can't sign anything meaningful.

There's precious few that have shown any sign of even matching china's response in terms of effectiveness, yeah, from what we seem to be able to tell. Nevermind doing better. Without that trying to pin something on the nation for being the one to have lost this round of the pandemic lotto is probably pretty futile.

The implications for actually managing it and winning would probably be fucking hilarious, though. Please, someone open the flood gates to having precedent for winning a case and having it stick related to internal incompetence or mismanagement splashing onto other countries. Please. You'd create a cottage industry overnight of folks bleeding the U.S. dry via punitive measures