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Eh, they work close more than you might think, depending on the specific issue being addressed. But, yes, they're often spread out, generally not touching shared surfaces, often outside where it's harder for spread to happen if you're not bunched up, generally not interacting much with the general public or at-risk populations, etc., etc. If you're looking for a desperately needed work project that would carry relatively minimal risk of spreading the plague, you could do a lot worse than roadwork.

All that said, it's also hard work, mostly exposed to the elements, and often enough fairly dangerous for one reason (heavy equipment, material issues, other stuff) or another (idiot drivers), so it's obviously enough not to everyone. Still, something that could both do a lot of good and offer a good bit of relief for people who have lost jobs or whathaveyou? Damn straight it is.

'Course, stateside, we've been waiting for that infrastructure week and billions or trillions of dollars of investment in our decaying roads and whatnot for a good four (plus) years now. It's become something of a running joke :-\

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The only prize we get is more crow plague. It's not a great one.

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I mean. As long as you're not living or working with the elderly or other high risk individuals, I guess it's whatever?

Didn't you say you smoke, though, nenj? Whatever the calculus involved is, it's going to tilt pretty significantly towards whatever vaccine or other solution gets produced if you got lungs you've been fucking over with tobacco. Crow plague's been notably fucking people with prior lung conditions, smoking history very much among them :-\

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Ladies and gents, we have plague bingo! Liberty finally found one of their covid cases, so the official county level infection of florida is now completely 100% total. There is not a single county in the state without confirmed cases of the crow plague.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:12:33 am »
I'unno, my processes start time on a win10 machine looks to be about five days ago, and I'm not noticing any meaningful slowdown. What counts as long uptime, here?

... oh, wait. A month, right, I see it now. I can't think of any of the win OS versions (or much of anything else, for that matter) that wouldn't have hiccups after like a month uptime, heh. It's real easy for stuff to accumulate over that kind of time frame if you're not being real careful about making sure everything shuts down properly and whatnot.

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Seriously though, just don't price gouge the lifesaving medicine to the point it's literally criminal and you're probably going to manage to avoid the pitchfork and torches. A moderate profit probably won't get much remark, especially if it doesn't meaningfully impact distribution. But if it's not moderate and it's pricing people out of not fucking dying, well. If your pricing scheme is functionally murderous people are probably going to get pissed at whoever's setting the prices :V

Usually they don't seem to get pissed much at the people who made the stuff that aren't involved with said pricing, though? I've never noticed that being much of a thing, though the desperation and scale of the current situation might change that.

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In our healthcare institutions (youth care, elderly care, psych wards), staff are resigning from their jobs for lack of protective materials.
Of those that don't quit their job, 14% have called in sick.
I really wish people would stop wearing facemasks in public and donate them to healthcare institutions.
Eh, the requests I've seen have been less that, and more "keep the good shit for the hospitals". People being encouraged to wear masks, but like homemade ones and crap. Don't go without, but leave the high end stuff to folks on the front lines. The problem isn't really lack of facemasks for medical folks -- any old bugger can rip up an old towel or blanket or summat and wrap it around their head -- it's lack of the N95 tier stuff for them.

Or in other words, don't get antsy about joe blow wearing any old face covering. We want that, and want that en masse. Get pissed if you see one walking around with a N95 respirator or summat (well, assuming they're actually joe blow and not someone working with high risk populations).

it's conceivable that Max, per his post, could want a mob to torture to death anyone who's received COVID-19 grant money or venture capital and subsequently succeeded in developing something, on the logic that they've somehow profited off the pandemic. Sure, that's nonsensical, but anger has a way of making violent nonsense feel comforting, and a lot of people will be very angry in the near future -- and one motivated loon with a big rock can still do a lot of damage in the wrong place.
Woah, hold up, that's not the logic Max is presenting at all, though. Shkreli tier is not "somehow profited off the pandemic", like, at all. Nor is it just anyone who's received grant money or venture capital. Pharmabro fucker was something fairly specific, and not something that includes researchers or the actual ground level folks in its ire.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 09, 2020, 08:44:35 pm »
Every once in a while I remember Data was also the VA for Puck in the gargoyles cartoons. It's kind of a good wtf, but still a wtf.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 09, 2020, 06:42:46 pm »
But I haven't heard of any voting reform promises?  I'd like to know where you've seen this?  Only thing coming up on a search is old news regarding DNC primary reforms prior to 2020.
HR1, mate. It's been sitting in the Senate for like the last goddamn year, and we've had biden('s campaign) speak out in more or less support of it just this month. It would basically straight up fucking disembowel the GOP, leaving actual ground for left-progressive/third party runs without screwing everyone quite so hard in a losing situation. It's already passed the house once, it seems. It's literally something the dems are actively trying to get passed, right now. They just can't, because, y'know. Senate, president. Biden would rubberstamp that shit if it got through senate, and it would stick a fork right in the GOP.

Frumple, I think the problem is that the progressives are *always* the scapegoat, even when a moderate candidate loses.
Everyone that can be scapegoated gets scapegoated by folks looking to blame anyone except themselves for whatever portion of the failure is their due, though. Progressives get scapegoated, moderates get scapegoated, minorities, the majority, bloody anything to paint this shit as anything except all of us left of the goddamn fash collectively fucking up and going down together. Progressives probably seem like they get hit with it more, but that's because they're friggin' outnumbered in this country.

But yeah, Clinton's campaign wasn't exactly great. It just beat out bernie's, just like biden's did, and went on to win the popular vote despite all the horseshit going on in the country. Which suggests the problem wasn't necessarily even her campaign, just the specifically located horseshit :-\

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 09, 2020, 04:59:29 pm »
I mean. That would show like 70% don't, though? That's not how you drag someone towards you, that's how you signal quite loudly you're dependent on the majority to get bugger all you want done and most folks are better off listening to whatever that 70% is saying.

So what I'm reading is.... when they lose, we shouldn't be blamed?


*shrugs* If them losing isn't also a lose condition for more leftist groups (tip: it seriously fucking is for most of them) then I guess not? Them winning is our less lose condition at a minimum, though, so if we somehow manage to fuck ourselves by not throwing enough support behind 'em, well, blame should probably be duly apportioned.

If nothing else, getting the dems in power and making sure they stick to the voting reform promises would be a friggin' coup for the next few election cycles (with an added bonus of it being at least as much of one for them, so it's pretty damn win-win), nevermind even biden's publicly putting himself behind a lot of shit that's in the right direction. Blow out down ballot on top of getting the executive out of GOP hands and enough of congress to force something and this next cycle might be something other than fucking abysmal for the american left (and it's population in general, for that matter). Don't and we get to spend the next four years pretty omnifucked.

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Lets be fair however: Boris Johnson at least is sacrificing in first person as well.
I mean, he's not dead yet. Not unemployed, not facing potential homelessness, not... y'know, actually sacrificing something. Just suffering a bit so far, which I guess is more than some of the folks that have consigned thousands to the grave with their horseshit.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 09, 2020, 07:16:09 am »
You should appreciate it's purple, the Best Color, and discard other considerations. Though being not!blue is a step in the right direction regardless I guess.

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Oh, neat. CDC is apparently saying the virus might have a base-line R0 of around... 6. 5.7 or something. Or in other words it might be two to three times more infectious than previously thought, if nothing mitigates the spread.

Now whether that's being distorted by reporting or just how colossally fucking poorly the US has responded to the pandemic or something, I'unno. But it's apparently a thing!

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 09, 2020, 12:57:16 am »
Have they, though? From what I've understood, they've been getting beat by more moderate candidates in most cases, and only sorta' making inroads in safe blue seats (though fairness where it's due, primarying shitty dem candidates in safe seats is basically goddamn ideal for progressive efforts, so long as it's not costing general elections in the process). Probably some exceptions, but that's seemed to be the last couple elections' trend.

There's some progress, but it's not good progress. Just some, and a fair amount of repudiation at the ballot box to go with it :-\

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my :O

im not the oldest guy on this thread?!!
I mean, we've had folks over 40, 50 post in the happy thread before, so probably not. Kag's not the only person in their 30s posting, though, no.

Personally, I find the trick is to just kinda' ignore your birthday outright. There was a point last year I spent a bit fairly confused thinking I was a year younger than I actually was. Had just sorta' forgot a birthday or somethin'.

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