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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 21, 2020, 10:18:35 pm »
Lots of the agriculture heavy parts of the country. Particularly the parts that have the climate for significant corn crops. They tend to be poverty heavy and safety net light. It's corn hell because it's full of corn and kinda' hell to live in.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 21, 2020, 05:33:38 pm »
Ah. Yeah, iirc feinstein was actually one of the sketchy ones. Want to say the closest to deniability there was that it was more her husband doing the selling than her (due to her financial junk being in a blind trust or something), but I may be confusing it with someone else. Feel free to chuck tomatoes at that one, though. Pretty sure she's been a ~why the hell are you in this party~ for a while now.

Anyway, re: the Fed stuff, let me make clear I don't actually think with any emphasis that it, specifically, is exactly fucking up? As near as I can tell, in a relative void, what they're doing isn't exactly wildly out of line for what we're experiencing. The thing I'm noting is that them making major action like that in the face of the relative inaction of the rest of the federal/non-state/local government is a super bloody bad look. Because you got the gov't managing to be unfucked and active on exactly one front, and it's what looks like bailing out the stock market to the tune of trillions of dollars, while thousands to millions of american citizens lose their jobs and otherwise get screwed over hard by the very same chucklefucks the Fed's carrying water for in doing so.

Intellectually, I get why it's happening and don't entirely think the Fed is doing wrong. Less intellectually I can physically feel it radicalizing me in real time and my eat-the-rich jokes becoming less of a joke and more of a "how do you build guillotines again?" sentiment, because fuck a system that's going to unfuck that one part of it while largely leaving the rest of us in the goddamn lurch for weeks to months in the middle of a fucking pandemic with the possibility of a world war scale body count.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 21, 2020, 07:07:48 am »
Ha ha ha.

Remember that 1 trillion dollar liquidity thing a little bit back?

They're going to do it again!

Every day for the next 30 days straight.

Like. It might not even be a bad idea, from what I'm seeing? Shit's basically monopoly money being used like that, it's a shitton of loans w/ interest that theoretically actually spends nothing, and might even net the Fed a profit.

But.

The optics.

The optics of doing this when the fuckers in the WH and Senate can't seem to pass or enact even basic fucking assistance for anything that isn't wall street. The sheer look of 'giving' thirty fucking trillion to fucking investors instead of the american public. Holy shit.

I'm just saying, but more than ever the solution to this shit looks like a nice outlay of fava beans and chianti, to deal with this unfortunate rich person malignancy America seems to have developed.

Nancy Pelosi is now several steps to the right of Donald Trump, arguing against strong support for those affected for Coronavirus while taking decisive action to insulate herself from the economic shock by selling her stock based on inside information. I want her recalled, or maybe impeached.
Also that, neither of those are actually happening. The latter in particular, unless folks have dug up something else, was fucking fabricated in relation to stocks that A) were expiring or some shit the day they were traded B) were traded prior to major briefings other congressfucks were caught dumping stock after and C) don't show any sign of being unusual in basically any goddamn way. We have congress folks showing signs of holy shit corruption (like that GOP fuck that voted against the stock act or whatever it was, dumped stocks immediately after a major briefing, and then proceeded to try to downplay the dangers of the crow plague in public), but pelosi doesn't actually seem to be one of them.

The former's basically the same goddamn thing. We have people comparing statements by pelosi days or weeks prior to shit trump said or major shifts in what's going on, to fucking nonsense word babble the shitgibbon isn't actually going through, while the house the pelosi's heading is consistently passing shit several orders more leftward than fucking anything the GOP or trump is actually doing, nevermind the mouth noises they're utterly not backing.

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Sod if I know what fast and accurate depth perception is like. I can hit a moving target or whatever but if you asked me to say how far something is in, like, feet or meters I'd just be like ~hell if I know~

I can do better when I have a frame of reference -- car length, distance between telephone poles, books, whatever -- but if you're asking me to eyeball distance without something on hand to compare it to I'm pretty shit at it.

Fast is more of a thing, though. Doesn't actually help too much unless you're idly throwing things at cats or summat. Or being suicidally stupid. Most of the time you're close enough to something you need that kind of rapid response for you're too damn close to it and should back off anyway. Mostly just think of those few seconds you need, and image it happens in a blink instead. It's nice, I guess, but not super helpful in most contexts, especially relative to behavior that would mitigate the need for it to be.

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Eh, if wikipedia is accurate there's, like, actually a bunch of different aspects to depth perception, several of which don't actually require binocular vision. So you'd still have some sorts of depth perception with one working eye, just not the full suite, so to speak.

Also apparently biocular and binocular are different things, which I don't think I knew. Neat.

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It's like a three point shot from half court, I guess.

I'm not actually sure, I vaguely remember folks saying people with one functioning eye still have depth perception, or something like that. Other than that, I haven't personally lost it at any point I can recall, so trying to explain it is like someone who has never had visual snow try to explain what the world looks like to someone that's always had it. What's it like to have a field of vision not filled with mostly transparent wiggling blobs of static-y color overlaying everything? What's the lie of stillness like to experience? Does the world ever stop moving to you? Is there ever only darkness behind your closed eyes? These are things I've never lived. Words grant an idea or approximation, but they can't be lived. I don't know depth perception's lack, and I've been hallucinating 24/7 for over three decades.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 19, 2020, 09:16:42 pm »
Hell, she did endorse sanders last time, iirc. So you could say that, but I'm not quite sure what the takeaway there is :P

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Man, good luck folks. Hope y'all come out okay.

Came in to chime in libraries seem to be closing to the public en masse now stateside -- came in to work today after some time off for doctor-y stuff to find out our doors are closed and will be for at least two weeks, poking around doing normal work stuff (ransacking other libraries MARC records) shows bunches of other ones are too, now, mostly having started Monday and planning on staying shut for 1-2 weeks to start.

No one fired or hours lost or anything (benefits of being public service, I guess) so far where I'm at, but it's a thing.

It's probably worth noting as a PSA that if folks are interested, most libraries have online services of one sort or another (E-books, etc.), and many are still retaining staff for covering patron calls and inquiries and whatnot, so if you want a distraction or whatever, that might be a possible venue. Helps if you already got a card but secret librarian cabal chatter (okay, it's the Koha mailing list but whatev') suggests some places are trying to figure out a process for folks that don't, too.

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Ah, mea culpa on assuming it was probably some obscure racial jab then, we get kinda overloaded with it here so rather than jump to corvid from coronavirus disease 2019 I'm like "wtf, is this some shit where people from one arbitrary part of the world said they were hawks and their chosen 'other' group from an arbitrarily nearby but slightly different part of the world were crows" instantly.
Yeah, it's literally just a corruption of covid into corvid which = crows. It's not exactly fair to crows, like, at all, but it's also the snappiest designation for the disease I've seen so far, involves less non-words than covid (and is less than a pain in the ass to type on a tablet than covid-19 or CoV-SARS-2 or whatever the hell it is), and has less genocide flavor than boomer remover or stuff in that direction. Crow plague rolls off the tongue well, and that's about all that's behind that.

Unless some jackasses somewhere have coopted it to mean something shitty, I guess. Until I hear word of otherwise I'm sticking with crow plague mostly 'cause I like typing it best, and little pleasures are how you weather disasters relatively sane.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: March 19, 2020, 09:13:22 am »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/democratic-primary-bernie-sanders/index.html

Sanders actually has a sense of priorities, to the chagrin of reporters.  Dares to use the F bomb.

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When asked about the difference between 2016 and 2020, McAuliffe said, "Here is the big difference: Donald Trump."

...

Do these people *literally* have worms in their brains?
Giving what little credit is due, I guess they mean four years of absolute certainty in what trump entails as a POTUS, versus the theoretically unknown state of things in 2016. Then, trump had no political history, just business, and people could and did brush that off with a "things can change once in office". Now? Now is, in fact, different on that front.

But yeah, anyway, bernie's been fukkin' rekt. Again. Biden could lose every state left in the primary by like ten points, and still be ahead in delegates, at this point. Folks like bernie's ideas, but they don't seem particularly fond of him. Which I guess shouldn't be a surprise at this point. Dude seriously should have just not ran and campaigned hard for someone younger/more likeable. Hopefully it won't have knock-on effects for 24 or 28 and we can fucking finally get a decent bleeding edge left-winger in office.

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I was not really expecting pandemic (experts were aware about risks caused by China) but I feel fully justified in being powerlessly irritated at China gov. Their terrible government structure and live animal markets are responsible for starting this mess.

EDIT: sorry, misspost (it seems that there is no way to delete)
They... really aren't responsible for that. Cross-species pandemics like this can arise basically anywhere human to animal contact occurs, which is more or less everywhere; china's behaviors may increase the chance somewhat, but the fact their population is goddamn huge is the primary reason shit seems more likely to hit a fan there.

So far as response and mitigation efforts go, they've also been one of like maybe three countries worldwide that haven't been entirely fucking everything up, alongside south korea and maybe singapore. It hasn't been 100% perfect by any means, but china's legit been doing more than just about any other country on the planet to reduce and contain the spread of the virus. You could say that that's more a condemnation of everyone else than it is praise for china and the few others that have taken legitimately meaningful effects to contain the crow plague (and I'd agree with you if you did), but they're not really to blame for happening to have lost the dice roll on viral mutation and then genuinely trying to deal with the situation once it became obvious what was going on.

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Trying to stay positive but shit continues to get incrementally spookier.
If it makes you feel any better, so far I don't think I've seen (or heard) anything particularly out of line for an incoming major hurricane. It's just something of a difference in scale, 'cause it's, like... sequential major hurricanes, across all countries, just with less direct infrastructure damage. Or something. Still, disaster prep for, y'know, a disaster that might shut things down for a while. Lot of it hasn't felt particularly spooky to me, just kind of an understanding nod towards hatch battening.

... now, some of the stuff I've been hearing about on the hospital prep side of things, bit more unsettling. They seem to be expecting and prepping for something worse than a high cat hurricane so far as casualties and whatnot goes. But average people junk's just been kinda' standard territory after going through as many hurricanes as I have. Comforting definitely isn't the right word for it, but it's somewhere adjacent to it and disaster panic. A familiar sort of feeling, like nostalgia except you wish you could take it out behind the shed and old yeller its ass instead of ever dealing with it again, ah ha ha.

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all aboard the plague boat whoohoo

Seriously though, probably a good thing. As long as someone didn't go and name it Princess, too.

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Let's hope the low numbers from Africa are due to these effects, and not underreporting. They have enough nasty tropical diseases that we never have to worry about, it would be fair if they get a pass for this one.
Crow plague's just kinda' global at this point, and meaningfully infectious even in warmer areas. If you're seeing low reported numbers it's almost certainly due to the nation in question just not goddamn testing. The closest to exception there is basically china and south korea at this point, and that seeming to be because they're about the only thing of meaningful size not fucking up response super hard.

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Yeah, I wrote that I hoped warm weather would have an effect, but in the back of my mind I kind of already know the answer will be "no".
Actually, from what folks have pieced together from available data, warm weather does seem to have an effect. Iirc it's something like a third of a percent reduction in spread per infected (R number) per Celsius increase, and about a fifth of a percent per percent increase in relative humidity, going by information collected in china. So if humidity jacks up about 80% and/or the temperature spikes about 40 or so degrees C, and stays that way, you'd probably see a pretty significant reduction in the rate of transmission.

But, y'know, the R value for crow plague is somewhere over 2, so, uh. It's no silver bullet.

E: Source, incidentally. It's not necessarily super great data or 100% generalizable, but there's apparent suggestion warm and humid weather does have some degree of mitigation effect on transmission.

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