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I mean, the unsealed charge isn't for the leaks themselves, for what that worth, it's for (allegedly, I guess) breaking the law to acquire the information. Something which hasn't at any point been protected journalistic practice, so far as I'm aware. If Assange/Wikileaks had done nothing but disseminate information, he probably would have pretty strong legal grounds to avoid or defend prosecution.

If/when more charges come out, the situation may change, but right now the apparent effect it's going to have on journalism is a reaffirmation you don't get to hack computer systems (or break into someone's house or something, for a rough non-digital equivalent), or help with/encourage someone to do so, and then turn around and try to play the journalism card to get out of legal trouble for doing it. Which is, y'know. No actual effect on journalism, since that shit ain't news.

I guess all I can say is I don't feel the same way, and it's hard for me not to see that sentiment as partisan in nature.  I sincerely doubt that if the targets of the leaks and the outcomes and the resentment for it were coming from the other side that the same people would be saying such things.

If things were different they'd be different, sure. But you're talking about an organization that, from what we seem to have available as information, communicated with trump's campaign staff (without, say, screaming it to the world, i.e. behind closed doors) and timed and targeted information release for political purpose. Corruption is potentially iffier, but given WL's fairly blatant russia connection and the general skeeviness of the whole situation, not by much. And they're now getting burned, in part, because they decided to engage in closed door bullshit to manipulate politics and ended up pissing off people that might actually give a vague damn about rule of law.

E: ... though that last one likely wouldn't include US intelligence folks or the general workings of our current administration. Assange should probably be hoping that Sweden decides to ask for the guy and the UK sends him that way instead

These operations should be transparent to public scrutiny, and if they don't want to get burned, they shouldn't engage in bullshit.  No one should be spared that for any reason.

So you want Assange set on fire, too. Good time know, I guess.

If it happens, I guess. So long as we can agree he's a pretty shitty human being otherwise.

Bees in your fucking eyes

“She couldn’t have asked for a better bee to sting her in her eye,” Shelomi said.

Welp.

... like, amusingly enough but a government controlled insurance provider (medicaid/medicare, loosely speaking) actually is kinda' socialist?

It's just that's a good thing because capitalism is structurally incapable of doing pretty much anything except fucking up healthcare.

As for what's "wrong" with it, well. It's the goddamn GOP. It (maybe) means healthcare for the poor, the brown, and women. Can't fucking have that.

Its back was to all appearances, broke. Probably hit by a car, tail kinda' messed up and legs just sorta' dragging when it tired to flap around.

*has a wild idea*

Maybe both at the same time, just on different aspects? No clue how that’d work though. Maybe allow the private ones to exist at the same time as the single payer (or whichever the heavy government influence one is called) version? Australia does something like that I think.

Most sane healthcare systems allow for some form of private insurance to continue to exist, yes. Your idea isn't wild, it's standard operating procedure.

For all parts of the issue are complicated, some of the shit is real simple. Healthcare requiring heavy non-profit-focused controls to not function like a goddamn nightmare is one of them.

... didn't we already have fantasy wars and it's sequel as more-or-less this?