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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 15, 2023, 07:16:13 pm »
Gas buildup of some sort in the mine, probably? It's one of those known things that make dealing with the aftermath of those things troublesome.

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General Discussion / Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« on: August 15, 2023, 06:36:00 pm »
Eehh... that probably depends on the superman. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some incarnation of it or another that preempted their universe's existence, somehow.

Without is something of a bad joke to comic book characters, though. Extrauniversal is something of a "big whoop" to those critters.

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General Discussion / Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« on: August 14, 2023, 11:26:50 pm »
I don't think I've ever heard of any theory of divinity that includes upper realities where the gods are just normal people, or even themselves simply simulations. Maybe lovecraft mythos, I suppose.
If you're looking into fiction, that kind of metaphysics is pretty common among xianxia/martial arts fantasy. Becoming a godlike figure that steps into the next realm, which itself has beings doing the exact same thing, but on literally another level, is more or less standard world building. Gods made flesh in one realm basically end up peasants in the next, often enough.

Considering where their influences come from, that probably means there's intimations of that in some portion of eastern theology. I could see it coming out of parts of hinduism pretty easily, gods and men both being fragments of the brahman, et al.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 14, 2023, 06:52:00 pm »
Welcome to sporeland, population +1.

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Nah, you'll probably be fine. Mold generally isn't actually that dangerous to eat, from what I understand, for all that there's a lot of cultural avoidance of it in the world.

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General Discussion / Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« on: August 14, 2023, 06:50:15 pm »
You’re making the assumption that it actually exists, rather than a human construct to try to explain away the unknown.
This is more relevant than you might know; most propositions of omnipresence are largely exgetical (or... something like that, might be mixing up the term), heh. Iirc there's few to no bits of scripture that explicitly claim it, it all falls out from extrapolation of other bits of theology.

There's remarkably famous/influential theological proofs for it, though. It's an amazing thing to see extremely pious medieval christian theologians argue themselves around to what amounts to hardcore materialism, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 14, 2023, 05:14:55 pm »
For a village of 400 people, you would expect anywhere between 1,000 and 0 opioid pills a year...
Just to make sure it's acknowledged, the kermit one's just flat nuts, yeah. I could maybe see those numbers of huntington, just going by US prescription rates (which are probably themselves somewhere in crazyland compared to how things work regarding the NHS -- from what I've seen, even this long into the opioid crisis docs are very, very casual about prescribing opioids), but the kermit one boggles even the possibility of reason. Idle look into it suggests there was a lot of tourism coming into that town to pick up prescriptions*, but that'd have to do a hell of a lot of lifting to get those kind of numbers.

But yeah, making it clear, I do think the kind of numbers huntington saw is fucking nuts. I'm just less sure they're unusual for (parts of) the US. It's an indictment of the state of US healthcare more than anything, heh.

Funny thing is, from that map posted it kinda' looks like they were actually a little below their state's average at the time, so have fun with that one.

... though there's also a dash of frustration with the reporting involved. 81 million sounds like a scary number, but the presentation involved with it was shit -- you gave better context on that in a maybe an hour without pay than those reporters did in who knows how much time for a paycheck :V

*Though, in something vaguely resembling fairness for that one, it's not actually uncommon for folks to go across state lines to pick up prescriptions in the US... lot of times it's just cheaper to do that for whatever reason, or access just isn't available where you live.

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General Discussion / Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« on: August 14, 2023, 04:28:23 pm »
Okay guys, can we just stop and all agree that Yahweh sucks ass and smells like prostate cancer?
Hey now, thorough application of omnipresence means yahweh sucks every ass that gets sucked (at a minimum! Some conceptualizations means yahweh sucks even asses that don't actually get sucked in reality) and smells like every cancer, not just prostate cancer. Get it right :V

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 14, 2023, 03:28:58 pm »
Huntington's population is 46,842 which already give me a different number (where did you get your population Frumple?)
I was just plugging in the ones LW used, heh.

That said, I'm seeing where LW's 91k came from, it's roughly the population of the larger county that city's in (huntington apparently is in both cabell -- ~93k -- and wayne -- ~38k -- counties), which seems to be the actual target area in question. The age thing wouldn't be particular relevant, ~5% of the population is on prescription opioids, not 5% of the adult population. It works out to about where I was at from there, I think.

The more I'm looking at this, the less it seems like something wildly out of place, though. Going by the numbers, it's entirely possible the place actually wasn't getting a significantly larger amount than normal. Possibly higher, from eyeballing it, but not wildly so.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 14, 2023, 02:48:55 pm »
That's... over an 8 year period? So about 10 million a year, or ~111 per person per year; i.e. less than one per day per person. Literally everyone in the town wouldn't be on prescription painkillers, obviously, but it'd only take like a 3rd of that population (or less, plus however many folks were driving into town for their meds) on prescription painkillers to make that... not actually that unreasonable? 1 per day per relevant person, likely to be 2 or more in practice since even opioids don't tend to last 24 hours, etc. Not all of the folks on painkillers would be on opioid painkillers, but... still. It wouldn't take that many people on a daily painkiller prescription to hit those kind of numbers over nearly a decade.

That's definitely a number reported like that to be scary more than informative, and by a rough eyeball suggests a lot like the pharma folks involved are likely to avoid legal censure, blech.

E: Though looking a little more, it looks like the national average is ~10% on painkillers, roughly half that on opioids. End up being about 2k pills a year per likely person in a population that size, so about 6/day per likely person, which... is a bit much. I'd expect 2-4 to be more likely, from what I've seen of opioid prescriptions.

That said, you only need that population of prescribers again, or about half it, to be driving into town for pickup for it to start just looking like folks with a daily painkiller prescription.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 14, 2023, 02:20:45 pm »
I could... maybe see something like that, if the places they were sent to were more primary distribution areas for a larger region? There's areas where much more than the population of the town/city itself use the place to fill prescriptions.

Probably it was just wildly overprescribed, though, yeah.

Maui's governor Josh Green announced that 89 people have died in the island fires, making this the deadliest fire in the US in over a hundred years.
Green warns that people should prepare to find more dead under the rubble.
The histroical town of Lahaina has been nearly completely destroyed. Fires are still burning.
Yeah, maui in general is just... closed, basically, for the next while. Really bad confluence of events, lot of it looks like just plain bad luck from what I've been seeing of commentary -- firefighting infrastructure was tied up, bad winds flared up at the worst time and spread the fire too fast to really react, nasty stuff. Rebuilding's going to take a while, lot of people lost more or less everything they had, it's pretty rough.

Wild thing is there's apparently folks out there asking when the island'll be open for tourism again, which is, just. Words fail. Now ain't the time, asshats ::)

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General Discussion / Re: Railgun and Spirituality Discussion
« on: August 13, 2023, 09:33:12 am »
Well, what other people said he said, as agreed upon by various organizational consensuses over the centuries, anyway.

Any case, christianity as it exists today only exists because of a lot of things that have very, very little to do with the scripture or its believers, heh. Lot of it doesn't even have anything to do with the religion itself, per se, save insofar as it was used as a sometimes genocidal bludgeon against various governments' designated punching bags.

That's religion for yeh, tho'. You'd think there'd be at least one major one that didn't have that somewhere in their history, but... not as far as I'm aware. Frikkin' jainism, whose primary teaching is nonviolence and the reduction of harm, even had a period where they were the major religion in an expansionist state :-\

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Other Games / Re: How did you last *own*?
« on: August 13, 2023, 07:12:57 am »
The best tip I have, if you haven't already noticed the functionality (it's easy to miss or forget it's there), is that you can click on the numbers that are already there and it'll highlight all the ones on the board. Easiest way to start a hell board I've found, is to take a minute to go through everything that's already there and see if the lines let you eliminate any possibilities. You usually seem to be able to get at least two or three spots down that way, and sometimes you can actually get down every one for a particular number.

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Eeyyup. Magic is absolutely 100% a thing, and a major thing, for christianity, it's just called either a miracle or the work of the devil. Doppelgangers, mind control, excuses for infidelity strange pregnancies or changeling-adjacent stuff, bad day at work, devil devil devil devil. Sometimes witch! Witch using the power of satan. Or anti-christ! They like calling the pope that, and whatever major politician their zeitgeist don't like that day (fun fact of evangelical conspiracy mongering: The anti-christ can be several people simultaneously! It's not limited to a single body!). Mostly devil, though.

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Other Games / Re: How did you last *own*?
« on: August 12, 2023, 10:25:03 pm »
Zero mistake hell board, for the second time. Took 1405 seconds and four tries, heh.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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That's... a hell of a claim, considering the history and current state of evangelical conspiracy mongering. The wackiest conspiracies the evangelicals conjure up is literally straight out of Q, these days, and I'm not sure it's, like, physically possible to top that nonsense enough for it to be considered child's play.

After a point there's just no way to dig the crazy any deeper when operating within the constraints of human communication. There's chunks of evangelical nonsense that have dug right on down and ain't got no where else to go.

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