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Uh. Okay, so do you lot have any insight into what the hell is going on with Nunberg, or is it just straight up as ridiculous as it's looking like it is?

Pretty sure we've been working through one or both of those, actually, though most of the efforts so far have been through VA and some local stuff. Lot of the frustration at the mo' is trying to get the people with actual legal/financial weight to get stuff done (which largely isn't me, or we'd either be in a much better situation right now or dealing with an internecine apocalypse after I set parts of my immediate family on fire), when for reasons varied (and not all inexcusable or somethin', mind) they were lollygagging around and then the cognitive issues took a dose of racecar nitro.

Pulling out the mop for the first time on the issue just got to me a bit, I guess. Been a bit rough the last few days trying to dissuade the 88 year old that can't figure out the four buttons on a lift chair control in under a half hour from trying to get in a car and drive around town (or out of it), among other things.

... still, definitely thanks for the links. I'll make sure to hit the people primarily (able to be) dealing with the paperwork over the head with 'em, if they haven't already seen them.

E: also yeeaah. Basically all of them, if lightly with some. Bleh.

E2: ... yeah, pretty sure sitting in the passenger seat of one of the vehicles trying to plug a cell charger into a phone that doesn't work anymore, believing it's how to roll the windows down, ticks off one of those warning signs. Dealt with that, in any case.

It's called senility, red. Also stupidity, malignant narcissism, who knows what else. That's why. The brain to mouth filter doesn't quite work right.

E: Also it can totes be both, MSH. No need to posit a choice where none needs to exist.

Huh. Apparently response to the tariffs have included such gems as Juncker going, "We can also do stupid." Yeeaah, we're about to have a trade war, alright. Wasn't much chance of otherwise, really, but considering the extent of trump's self control and skin thickness, whatever chance there was has pretty certainly vanished in the face of notably visible people calling it like it is.

... blackrock, eh? Well now. Considering the president's financial investments I think the chances of trump implementing something that shits on the NRA's goals just bumped themselves up a few good notches. Maybe we'll get something useful out of the top level corruption this time :V

Hey desc, enduring something is an experience. It's just generally a varyingly shitty one, that gets old much faster than basejumping supersex.

... any case, yeah, "experiencing life" does tend to imply new crap, or at least decent variation between a set of things. It's definitely the common usage by a large, large degree. An experience you can exchange for several dozen (hundreds) of others without noticing much or any difference isn't enough of an experience to register as worth noting, for most folks.

Also there's nothing wrong with hedonism, goddamnit. The extremes can get stupid like anything, particularly if you ignore the less visceral subsets of pleasure, but the base concept is fine.

... Are Space Marines even portrayed sympathetically very often?  I thought the general flavor of 40K is a universe immune to morality where everyone is an asshole, and space marines are just less cosmic horror than most other things.  People like the setting because it takes grimdark to such extremes that it's comical and stretches the imagination.  Yeah, I don't see how that can be construed as misogyny.

Sure they are? Portrayed sympathetically often-ish, that is. Least by the better writers, ha, and stuff where there's much room made for that sort of characterization. Sometimes. There's a lot of things to play on for characters that are unaging death machines with varying remnants of a connection to humanity.

So far as the female marine thing, while there are genemodded (and otherwise superhuman) female supersoldiers of various stripes, so far as I can recall marine geneseed is literally lethal for anything human that's not male (mind you, it's also pretty lethal for most things human that are, too). Chaos probably is rocking some things and mutation is always there for giggles, but as a rarely broken rule even for a population as large as the imperium all space marines are dudes... albeit chemically castrated and questionably capable of sexual reproduction, iirc.

Gender roles are kinda' weird in the setting, honestly. A lot of the setup (planets, individual spats of hierarchy, and so on, can be radically different; for all the IoM is freakishly intolerant in a lot of ways they really don't give much of a damn in a lot of other ways, too) means any particular work's handling of it boils down to individual writer(s) involved more than anything. The imperium itself is pretty meritocratic in some ways, really. You don't argue too much with the glowing lady that can pimp slap your main battle tanks and have the tanks come out the worse for it.

... that said, space marines are actually pretty cosmic horror-y at the end of the day. They're human shaped (in a general sense, anyway) and ostensibly on the side of man, but they get pretty freaky even without chaos getting involved. Extent it's hammered on varies wildly, though. Still... space marines are seriously pretty inhuman at the end of the day, moreso than some aliens or mutants or whatev'. By the time the transformation finishes, they don't have human brain chemistry, physiology, lifespan, and on, and on, and on, and then they go on to live lives that are centuries or millennium long and near utterly divorced from anything a human can survive.