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It's possible congress might refuse to pass a budget that includes 2 days of back pay for those who were on the clock during the shut down... but I really don't think even they would be stupid enough to do that. As it is the pay check which would be missing any pay hasn't been written yet.

I mean... you'd think, but the GOP already rejected a bill to fund the military through a shutdown once this go around. Still got room for it to happen.

E: Though I guess the question now is what happens in three weeks when it's time for the telegraphed and inevitable betrayal. Can kinda' understand it with six years of chip and a loudly televised promise to actually bringing a daca bill to vote (never mind both should have happened months ago), but at the same time mitch in particular, never mind the rest of the GOP involved, is less trustworthy and consistent than my grandfather's bladder.

C'mon ree, get with the times. This was clearly clinton's fault. Obama's, like, yesterday's fad.

E: Though I guess it could have been turtleman holding a knife to the throat of the manufacturer's most treasured kitten. Threatening small helpless things with death to make stuff more expensive is apparently mitch's shtick nowadays.

Sudden and fairly brutal cough. Last night I was feeling pretty shit 'cause my appetite had tanked for the better part of two days but other than hunger and headache mostly okay, this morning my throat decided it was going to see if it could simultaneously cause my throat and my side to tear and bleed/bruise. Intensity has spaced out a bit by now (nightfall), but it's not getting much less intense. Just about made my throw up a few minutes ago, because all a throat needs besides mucus and contractions rubbing it raw is gastric acids coming to join the party

... hopefully this shit'll chill fairly rapidly, 'cause this is just about the worst cough I've had in like the last decade or two. Legit starting to get worried this is going to cause me to start coughing bits of blood, bleh. Also, after this, it's probably time to take the likely source back to the doctor. Been out of it enough I haven't noticed it they were taking their antibiotics appropriately, but they've been coughing now for like... three, four weeks, maybe, and getting intermittent spats of it since like... september or some shit. Finally appears to have got everyone else in the house, which means the stubbornness about getting a doc to deal with it is about to get kicked into the shitter. _{just as soon as the fever and coughing cuts out enough I can walk without having to hang on to the walls or whatever is handy to avoid hitting the ground head instead of foot first}

Candy is nice, but I think the implied turtle dong would be a net negative for most folks. Grab the candy and run, I guess.

More realistically he's snubbing McConnell, though why Trump is so utterly persistent in the public persecution of his allies I'll never know.

Well, step one is him not thinking of them as allies. Not entirely sure trump understands the concept to begin with, at least in the way most people do.

... if you're going by that description of things, law period doesn't exist. No law exists beyond the point something enforces it. Scale is pretty irrelevant.

Which would roughly mean legal and illegal are nonsense words with no meaning, and you can use them to describe adherence to international treaty as much as you please. You could also use them to refer to loofahs, I guess. Most people are pretty comfortable using 'em to describe treaty violating actions rather than bathing accessories, though, since the only particular difference between international treaty violations and your neighborhood ones is who's involved.

Oh wow. Just noticed the tweet mitch made on the 19th. With that thing existent I think the GOP is going to have trouble framing this as the dems taking hostages. Even if it was the only thing to be found.

Though I'unno about that last bit, baff (well, the pre-edit last bit). Depends a lot on the area, sometimes the time of year. Plenty of places have less than zero difficulty replacing a tenant, and it's not the most rare thing a landlord has some degree of difficulty letting the payment slide for too long even if they know money's coming later (never mind issues with other things). Particularly if they do have replacement tenants actually able to immediately pay lined up.

What happens if a government employee cannot pay his rent due to prolonged shutdown? Can they be evicted, or is there some legal protection against that for government shutdown times?

They can be evicted, yes. There's not much of the US economy terribly enthusiastic about IOUs, least when there's not interest attached to it, and most of the parts that have interest attached to it don't exactly like statements like "I'm not getting paid and don't know how long it will last."

Incidentally, it usually takes a while to get on something like SNAP (i.e. food stamps), particularly when much of the relevant offices happen to be understaffed or closed.

... also most government workers are pretty normal so far as american workers go, fiscal security wise. Which is another way of saying they live mostly paycheck to paycheck and there's not many pay cycles (i.e. months) of window available before things start fairly rapidly turning dire for them

Basically, if you're assuming any of this has much in the way of protections in place for directly effected workers during the period the shutdown is ongoing, you've made a common mistake for those unfamiliar with the USA of thinking there's reasonable forethought involved in any of the processes involved, on that front. Because there isn't. The closest to it is for essential personnel that are still working. Everyone else is kinda' up the proverbial shit creek, and the department that issues paddles wasn't classified as essential.