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Other Games / Re: A Cautionary Tale of Gambling in Mobile Games
« on: December 17, 2017, 11:22:56 pm »
*scratches head* Before web games and korean mmos you had the general ethos being applied to, y'know. Whatever. Exploitative marketing and all the related mess isn't exactly a phenomena of the modern times.

... that said, what's changed more is that we're both better at it and better at noticing it (if perhaps not better at avoiding getting hooked), so the effects probably are being magnified to some degree. Finally got around to starting to starting to codify crap snake oil salesfolk probably used to stab each other over or somethin'.

Pretty sure we actually do have ways (or are very close to developing them) to know with any particular mobile game how much the game is inclined towards the minute's latest sucker, though, so long as someone's able and/or willing to get and parse the data. Everything else aside, it's pretty difficult to actually be subtle about this crap if you're dealing with someone able to see the whole picture rather than be immersed in a particular slice of it. Junk relies fairly heftily both on there being a curve (for lack of a better word) and the target not being able to notice it, which is a lot harder when someone can actually sit there and look at the entire line.

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... hell, did they already get the compromise scam out? Looked away for a bit and the last I noticed the senate had done their thing but passed the hot potato of thoroughly nixing what little chances the GOP had of not making life long enemies of several of the younger generations back to the house. Hadn't gotten around to agreeing on exactly how they were intending to fuck more or less the entirety of the american population, yet.
I mean not worry explicitly about housing costs and stuff like that. Networking is a given, and I'm already doing research relevant to the field.
Eh. I'd still probably recommend whatever attention you can spare. Your money is pretty certainly not going to go as far as your parents' did, and the chances of the housing (and similar areas in terms of monetary costs) situation being better when you get out of school (and, beyond that, once you've been out long enough to be considering investments of that sort) is fairly slim. Population's not going to go down unless someone does something massively stupid, and so far as I'm aware even with telecom tech advancing flexibility in terms of positioning is changing for much of the country, and not in a way that gives as much of a range so far as choice and cost go.

Unless you're incredibly certain you've got a persistent position waiting for you that has the option of having options (minor hint: Basically goddamn nobody in your generation or mine or anyone younger has that anymore), you probably want to be doing whatever future proofing of your ass you can manage, more or less. It might not be the apocalypse en route, but so far as economy goes, unless you're real damn lucky any and every thing your parents went through is going to be harder for you on the net.

... mostly it's just a kinda'... I'unno. Just a sort of warning to be real sketchy about trying to apply anything related to previous generations to what's going on and what you're going through, unless they've actually been dealing with the whatever recently, and with a situation actually similar to what you're likely to. It's been one of the things the older handful have been having persistent trouble recognizing (and many of the younger ones right up until they walk face first into the fan propelled excrement), but there's a disconnect between what they experienced and what you're pretty certain to. Basing your concerns off their troubles is a good way to get bit in the ass a few years down the line, heh.

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Ha ha ha. Protip: Worry about it fucking now. Shit you do in college (or prior) has good odd to ultimately fuck you when you get out regardless of what or how well you do inside it. Zero exaggeration, probably better than half of the problems I've been having the last few years are because I cared more about my education and family than I did my resume.

At the absolute least make damn sure you're networking with teachers and whatnot to get your hands on some kind of in into whatever industry you're trying to enter. Grad (or whatever) degree may have been largely enough to get you a job a generation or two back, but it doesn't carry quite as much weight these days.

It's also pretty certain to not be worth as much as it was a decade or two ago, even if it gets you through a door. Wages and whatnot have been pretty stagnant for most of the population, but inflation et al have been cheerfully chugging along.

E: Or to put it another way: Anything your parents did or went through when it comes to employment? Throw it the fuck out when it comes to your expectations unless they're mid thirties or younger. Find out what's happening to people now, and then expect it to be worse when you get out of school.

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Other Games / Re: A Cautionary Tale of Gambling in Mobile Games
« on: December 17, 2017, 04:09:28 pm »
Eh, for what it's worth, dropping 50 a month on gacha or whatever's probably healthier than on beer or cigs or some shit. As unhealthy (fiscal and otherwise) habits go there's worse ones.

... not to say it's a good one or somethin', or something I'd indulge in myself. I don't touch casino style crud with my own money ever, never mind something that won't even manage to potentially result in food money.
Targeting the so called 'whales' is also pretty unsustainable as an actual business model, tremendously profitable short-term, but ultimately self-destructive to the industry as a whole.  After all, there are only so many 'whales' to go around, and even if there are an adequate number of them, they have a finite amount of money (then you get into credit and all kinds of other nastiness).  There are obviously a lot of potential arguments regarding the exact impact of 'whale fishing' in this context, but it is almost certainly a net negative in the long term.
I mean... questionably? You have a similar targeting scheme (and related, if at times distinct, slate of psych levers involved) with general fraud/confidence scams, and as far as I'm aware the overall "market" for that bullshit has mostly either sustained or grown over the last few decades, even as means of shutting it down have become more developed.

It might not be the most amazing growth in the world or have the most room for new competition (and, frankly, to a significant degree that's probably a goddamn good thing, insofar as the continued existence of any of this general region of psychological predation can be considered good), but the thing with aiming for a demographic of that sort is that even if some of them buy themselves into nonexistence market wise, there's always going to be the next generation (either of new fish, or old fish getting senile enough to get hooked). Any particular one might have a finite amount of money but the consumer supply innit static, y'know? Church here and there bankrupting isn't doing much to stop the religious circuit from being one of the largest fraud markets in the world, and so on.

Basically so far as net negative goes, there tends to be an equilibrium point, so far as I'm aware. Non-vital market is generally going to have some portion of it be a drag on the total market, but it's pretty rare that portion actually grows enough to outright crash or shrink the whole. Just slow it down or depress net output (well, and ruin the occasional life here and there, of course). I would seriously not put any hopes in the kind of monetization schemes that leads to those whales being fished doing too much in the way of self-destructing, heh. Least on the whole.

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Or just aiming for people that never played the predecessor. Plenty of folks get sequels/later series games without having played the earlier stuff. Particularly in cases where there's better than half a decade between the first and second, heh.

... mind you, I'd wager even odds the intent amounts to trying to figure out how much they can skimp on features and still fleece younger or less aware (i.e. parents or whatev') consumers, but eh.

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 5: Warriors of the Faith Released!
« on: December 14, 2017, 04:53:18 pm »
Rather than a hotfix, they should make it a toggle :V

I'm not entirely sure what the exact sillinesses of inverted supply requirements would be, but I can only imagine they'd be interesting. Just don't ask how gluttony is producing supplies. Also maybe swap the N supply bonus over to D, I'unno. Part of me ponders the thought of negative supply starvation bomb squads roaming the countryside.

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Fun bit about the tax scam, actually, if it hadn't already been mentioned. Apparently parts of it are so terribly written it actually slaps some of the higher income folks with a 100 plus percent marginal rate on certain activities. Someone in the GOP managed to fuck up fucking everyone except their donors so badly they managed to write in one of the highest proposed tax rates in a good long while.
Wasn't that a book about a kid and a talking dragon romping about and having adventures? And there was some kind of evil possessed super wizard chasing them about in the first book? Because all of those things are verifiably awesome.
Militarized talking dragons (more overgrown lizardmen than dragon, mostly, but whatever, don't argue with the multi-ton 10ft+ tall lizards that are able to cheerfully gut you with a sword bigger than you are) that didn't do the fire breathing or flying so much as stabbing things with giant swords. Also their buddies, though the main human was at least late teens in the beginning, iirc... young adult or adult ish more than kid. Forget basically all of the details except the evil soda and the human MC screwing some kinda' monkeyperson chick in one of the later books, though. The one that had dragon vs. velociraptors as a major story arc. Been a long damn time since I read 'em, but I do indeed recall them being pretty awesome, or at least solid and rather not a tolkien riff.

Basil Broketail, heh. Though it seems they were spruced up for ebook formatting under a different name sometime more recently, after a quick check.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 13, 2017, 07:26:34 pm »
Speaking of Chrono trigger I hear Squeenix is consitering remaking FF6 and Chrono Trigger because the Secret of Mana remake worked so well.
Wait, wait. Hold up. There's been another seiken densetsu remake since those GBA-ish ones or... I think some kind of rts thing on the DS? And it... it went well?

... if so, now I'm wondering how I missed it. Like, I can guess because it was console and I haven't been able to afford one of those for better than a decade (i.e. I have no sodding clue what's happening on that front unless it's emulation related, and probably not then, either), but... still. I actually enjoyed SD2/3 more than CT or FF6. Which isn't saying I didn't enjoy the latter but I freaking loved the mana games, doubly so the ruddy art style and the music. Computer's desktop background is actually a screenie from the PSX one, heh. Has been for several years.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 13, 2017, 03:18:52 pm »
I think the only game I've 100(+) percented that I actually felt anything substantial upon accomplishing it was Mischief Makers. That bloody jackal bastard took forever to get the whatsit for. Shake shake rocket jackass.

Done a few of the donkey kong ones, SMB3 and super mario world (and whatever the one on the game boy with the rabbit hat is), Mario 64 (don't remember how many over 100 that one capped without having to glitch things, though), one or two of first couple wario land games, chrono trigger, few of the kirbies... pretty sure one of the mario kart games and the n64 DK kart game (took friggin' forever, ruddy collectathon nonsense grumble grumble).

Probably a handful of others I'm forgetting. I don't tend to 100% stuff, or even finish for that matter, but I've been gaming fairly actively for over two decades now so... yeah. There's a few.

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Swear to fornication, every time I come across eragon it takes a minute to recognise it's not referring to etrigan. Never read anything related to eragon except some fanfic related stuff, but despite that I still can't help but think replacing the MC of those books with etrigan would be a substantial improvement...

... also, sucker for boy and dragon, does broketail ring any old bells for you? Soda is the devil's drink. Or coffee. Something like that.

Any case, looks like alabama actually didn't prefer a pedo to a dem, or at least disliked the former enough to stay home. Those turnout numbers are a thing, heh. Probably even more impressive when you consider about 15% of 'bama's black voters have been disenfranchised.

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Other Games / Re: [Kickstarter] Arcen Game's AI War II. Take 2.
« on: December 13, 2017, 01:11:17 pm »
Aye, the email said pretty explicitly that if you want to play something that's at least as much game as tech demo to wait for the early release/public beta.

That said, it does look like a fair bit of the skeletony bits are in, so if you can stomach very much in dev stuff it probably wouldn't hurt much to go ahead and see what's there, if you have access. Far enough along it looks pretty solid so far as something coming out the other side goes, basically. Though I'd probably guess at least like another... six months to a year? Mid/late quarter 2018-ish. Before a full release, just eyeballing things.

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Other Games / Re: [Kickstarter] Arcen Game's AI War II. Take 2.
« on: December 13, 2017, 10:38:06 am »
Better part of a year since the last post, but I figure just in case anyone else that backed didn't notice it, folks might be interested to be reminded this thing exists and beta/pre-public testing keys went out at the end of the october. Just checked my email for the first time a month or so and saw the message from 'em, heh.

No clue how anything it is. Downloading now, but it'll probably be a bit before I can really look at it (and I can't recall if there's some kind of NDA involved or not, heh). Email said what's there is basically tech-demo level, though, with more game-y stuff to be coming over the next few months. Still, there's now a thing that's thing'd, rather than just videos or messages or whatev'.

E: ehehe it's definitely a dev build, yes. UI's kinda' sketchy in places, sorta' looks like some of the art assets aren't entirely in, plenty seems initially more opaque numbers wise than AW1. Going to need to plug in a mouse to do much beyond looking around a bit. Kinda' surprised it runs at all on my comp, really. At least initially the performance doesn't look much worse than the first one save a heftier RAM burden, though, which is maybe a good sign for us folks with lower end machines.

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That works fine for a day or two, but when you start talking about replacing the police with soldiers things change.  Soldiers aren't trained for dealing with civilians, they are trained to destroy the enemy.  I understand entirely that the police are doing a terrible job and need to be reigned in and probably completely re-trained, but the military is NOT the answer to this problem.

I agree that they are better trained, but they aren't trained to do what police do.
Uh. Pretty sure soldiers actually are trained for dealing with civvies, though? If they weren't the afghanistan/iraq situations would have been even more of a clusterfuck than they were. It's not the primary or only training, obviously enough, but to a fair extent what we've seen over the last handful of years seems to suggest whatever they're getting is better than what cops are in some places. If the military really isn't getting any that says a hell of a thing about police training in parts of the country, heh.

Probably lay fair odds that enemy thing is part of why, though. Far as I'm aware part of destroying the enemy is identifying it, and for various reasons most fucked up military training seems to be managing to be more careful about that than police, from time to time.

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"animus" can also mean "hostility", though.  Yeah I'd sooner use it to describe a golem's motivation, but that's an unrelated "animus".
I basically never see it used as anything except indicating hostility, heh. Y'all mentioning it reminded me animus/anima is a thing (and also reminds me piers anthony exists, so damn the both of you yesthisisajoke. barely.), but I've never thought of that usage as the primary one. Discussion of metaphysical animating forces doesn't seem to come up as often as fancy terms for disliking people...

Any case, wierd had it, more or less. Way to rephrase it is that A* folks have roughly as much reason to be pissed off and swearing at any religious group as they do at christians or christians do at non-christians, since with rare exception all of the latter lot shit on the first about as hard.

It's fairly expected that a secular inclined individual will be roughly as likely as a non-secular one to be spitting religiously charged vulgarities, basically. Reasons for intergroup hostility (and by extension slurs based on religious belief in one way or another) on religious grounds don't exactly reduce in either direction just because one isn't particularly religion inclined or the other isn't part of the local majority religion,* heh.

... also @helg, I think I like it, too. It's kinda' annoying to refer to atheists and agnostics at the same time given most shared descriptors you could use are invalidated by one lot or another, so letter + wildcard is a good bit lazier quicker and easier. Dunno if it's used much or not, that post was the first time I got fed up enough with trying to remember an appropriate one to use the shorthand.

* Though, that said, from what I understand about what minority status tends to do to societal rampancy it probably does reduce friction between them and other demographics fairly often. Religious group keeping their head down isn't quite as likely to be pissing off or pissing on someone, least so long as no one's latched on to them as a scapegoat or somethin'.

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Anywaaaaay. Today's the day we get to find out if alabama really does prefer pedophilia to democrat party affiliation. Given how wack the polling seems to be, it could be an interesting day, one way or another.

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Last I heard it was still dicking around somewhat reigned in waiting for the SC to get back to them on the question. Might have missed that happening, though. Kinda' depends on what you're calling original. The first two or three were somewhat dunked on, and what the SCOTUS folks are procrastinating on is a fair bit more restrained, iirc.
Somehow I guess that being atheist or agnostic does not stop someone from shouting a religious slur when their buttons have been pushed. See: average people who say they aren't racist still shouting the N word when they decide to throw the vilest insult possible.
Or even when not. You'd kinda' expect 'em to be throwing out religious slurs as much or more than conflicting religious groups do. A* folks generally have at least as much reason for animus towards non-christian religious groups as christians do, since the incidence of groups not hostile towards atheists or agnostics isn't exactly staggeringly different.

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