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Pretty sure we just have better materials to use than most metals, these days, if you really want to indulge in that route. Want to say there's something or another like that occasionally used during breaching actions.

Frankly, I'd lay good odds your bigger barrier than effectiveness would be cost, though. Handgun's goddamn cheap, bullets cost less than many different sorts of food, bullet proof or resistant much of anything generally... less so. Plus I hear the paperwork and admin procedures and whatnot for killing someone is at times less onerous than having to process someone not slated for the morgue, so less lethal just means higher costs for generally already underfunded precincts even if you discount any difference in outfitting costs. Fiscally it's arguable there's much incentive to substantially disarm, basically.

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Point is that as much as people talk about Christianity as a unified monolithic whole, it really isn't.
Except it kinda' is so far as politicized interaction with the american political system goes. The influence of christians stumping as christians is pretty heavily conservative, and by extension church goers are significantly R voting even if not registered R. There's a crap ton of different congregations but if you poke them for political views there's significantly less variation, and at least so far as I've noticed, while left leaning christians and related religious groups very much are there (the demographics of the US makes thinking otherwise an exercise in farce), they're not nearly as strident about it, nor as supported by regional inter-church organizations.

Basically, the parts that aren't entirely fractured -- and by extension leveraging significantly less electoral weight -- in the US are pretty damn monolithic in how they vote, regardless of whatever else they might be doing. And even with the mess that is protestant religion, most areas in the country have a handful of bridging groups putting a fair bit of (pretty damn effective) effort into getting otherwise disparate denominational splinters into an appropriately duckish row.

To an extent, it's not that surprising, really. The GOP has been pretty damn consistent in defending the means for church corruption and legal privilege to the hilt, so the power (and resource) consolidation and organizations it enables leads to damnedly influential religious groups pushing individual churches towards supporting the party even when there should be fucked up major theological et al disagreement with basically goddamn everything the republican party gets up to these days.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 10, 2017, 08:05:16 pm »
Wander into starting town. Find well with ladder. No idea why it's there, but hell, down the hole I go. Well suspiciously lacking in water, instead a bunch of rous1. *looks at 20 stack of rat meat* Was a bunch of rous. And torches. *9 new torches* Empty sconces.

Also barrels of gunpowder. Apparently timmy, being a modern man and stuck in a well, decided blast mining was the solution. Which is fair, blast mining is always the solution.

I've taken his forty pounds of leftover explosives. Left timmy down there. He's not dead yet, madam amnesiac klepto hobo (the murder prefix is awaiting finding whoever it is that's trying to put a hit out on timmy, because clearly someone is going to want me to kill the man in the exploding rat well) is going back out the well to see if someone will pay me to kill him... possibly with his own gunpowder, I'unno. We'll see how it goes.

Our intrepid heroine has started the day blundering into the smithy, the magic shop (mistakes made wrt both, most of what I bought I've found extras of already... except the pants. The pants were a good investment.), tried (failed) to shake down the sub-mayor thing for sword dosh, watched a macguffin hunter get headshot through a inn window, staggered randomly around the woods behind the graveyard rubbing their face on trees (found: More rous, well), stole a bunch of torches, killed a bunch of 1rats of unusual size. Leave the well as daybreak comes.

Thus ends day 1 of standard RPG behavioral patterns and the idle recognition of how casually absurd they can get. Something about starting the game with the motivation of "go have a nice meal in the nearby town" taking less than an in-game day to lead to meandering through the well full of rous and explosives in some rando's back yard, stealing torches along the way, made me notice it more than usual.

Also game's eschalon book 2, name the game no jerk, etc.

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Other Games / Re: Pocket games thread
« on: December 09, 2017, 03:41:42 pm »
Definitely not android only, heh. HyperRogue started as a PC game, iirc, then was eventually ported over to mobile early-ish in the development cycle. So you can always play it on a non-mobile comp if you reeeealllyyy want to :P

Total aside 'cause I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a port, but some of the critter's other stuff is quite neat, too. Vapors of Insanity is interesting even if it's a early beta build, ferex.

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Half sounds like it could be one of the necronator games. Flash based, mostly on point though not particularly roguelike, town wrecking was more income than straight undead, and it was generally a castle (or two) rather than a king. Don't recall if it ever got a dedicated thread in OG, but it's been mentioned a few times.

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General Discussion / Re: What are you reading?
« on: November 26, 2017, 05:20:37 am »
...amusingly enough, not only did I not encounter mockingbird as assigned reading, I've never read any of it besides the occasional snippet. Seen a movie or two, though :V

Never really felt the inclination even back when I was reading too friggin' many books of the classic sort, either, though. If I wanted to get a gander at the issues it dealt with I could go outside or have a talk with my grandparents about their younger years, ha.

Gatsby can go right to hell, though. An eye gouging mix of boring and miserable, one of the ones near the end of what it took to get me to swear off "classics" indefinitely. The technical capabilities of the writing was fine but I'd 'bout rather jam a rail spike in my eye than deal with the rest of it, these days.

Reached a point where all the literary expertise in the world ain't worth crawling through the shite that is ruddy universally their characters, plots, and/or settings to experience. Once you've well and truly got the damn point behind any individual bit of the stuff they're trying to convey leaning on that junk it's near enough self-flagellation to make little difference... and if I'm going to inflict literary masochism on myself I'm damn sure going to at least read something that has good sex in it instead *grumbles into the distance*

E: ... though to actually contribute, I'm still chewing through Wu Dong... something. The Golden Thumbing of Dong. Bout reached the end of what's translated. It's martial arts fantasy of the cyclical deus ex machina sort, predictable enough it could be bullet pointed, but on the less terrible side of them... imagery and whatnot is decent and gets better, and while the MC is as much cheerfully inclined towards mass murder as any protagonist of these sorts of work are, he's at least fairly amicable otherwise and regularly interacting with characters written to do something other than finger his murder buttons.

Also the harem elements are pretty subdued, for all the "romance" subplot is farcical (tl;dr version, mentioned in the wtf thread, punch ghost made MC and love interest screw for its amusement, Dong spends next few hundred chapters getting thumbed along the way of hooking up with her and murdering the cousin that injured his father), which is nice after the summons thing I last mentioned. It's hilariously predictable anything female that's around him/gets much screen time has some kind of macguffin jammed in them, but hey, better is better.

Writing's still pretty much objectively trash, though, and it not being the original language probably doesn't help. Still probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless you're hard up enough for mountains getting thrown at people to slog through hundreds of chapters of mediocrity, or just want to see what a pretty generic example of the style looks like (as well as how absurd "generic" gets in the context of these things). One of these days I'll get around to reading one I'd actually recommend, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2017, 11:52:37 am »
if anything is a satirical parody of itself, it's this
extra bonus points is the belated realization that they were trying to use patriotism to shill what was effectively a gyaru trump edition of a teddy bear

my morning did not need the intersection of the concepts of the potus and a stereotyped female delinquent mall crawling for boys

some things are never meant for a t-back

never

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Also on record saying his (decade plus younger) wife caught his eye at a dance recital when she was around 15, heh. Makes that denial ring ever so slightly hollow.

Though mind I'm pretty sure it's worth noting there's a handful of other reasons people are sketch as hell 'bout the guy's shit. Just so folks don't feel inclined towards thinking that denial discrepancy is actually the sole reason even chunks of the GOP have dropped moore like he's on fire.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2017, 09:05:32 am »
Cooking breakfast. TV on in other room, on western channel of some sort (grit? Something like that. It also does chuck norris in the afternoon). Not sure if hearing right. Go check. Commercial. TV commercial. Commercial for "trumpy bear".

If you guess from the name that it's a cheap looking teddy bear with a tie and replica of trump's hair style (complete with being a different color from the bear's fur), you'd be correct and you win nothing.

And if that kind of thing being encountered off the internet wasn't wtf enough for eight in the morning, somehow they found someone able and willing to say "god bless trumpy bear" on record, record that would be broadcast on a fairly widely watched channel. Bloody hell. Koolaid is for drinking, not intravenous drip.

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It's real bloody hard to tell.

That said, it looks like probably? One of the guidelines notes that insurance apps must both be free and not have in-app purchases, so strictly speaking the app itself wouldn't be making money and straight up could not have a by app or up front store cost involved. There's apparently various ways for non-profit stuff to get on the store, too, and since they transitioned into allowing donations in-app at some point, presumably beforehand the non-profits were either offering a service of some sort or having to address the app being a monetary drain for their budget.

Without being able to kick the apple site and/or google into being more explicit, I'd probably wager the answer is yes, so long as you can still cover whatever fees are involved with hosting an app on the store to begin with. It's fairly impressively unlikely apple would give much of a damn whether the app was draining your wallet so long as you were filling theirs.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 21, 2017, 06:29:08 pm »
What in the hell could eat an 11-lb bag of mealw--

*is immediately eaten by titanic fire-breathing 3-eyed chameleon. It's scaled are jagged.*
Chickens, mostly. Something like that. It's apparently more or less a treat for domestic fowl, and it lasts a... while. I think there's a (much smaller, like gas station bag of beef jerky smaller) bag in one of the other rooms that still looks more or less like it did the day it was bought, some time last year (or the year before? It's been a bit anyway). Eleven pounds sounds like a lot, but over multi-month time scales and/or dealing with a sufficient amount of critters, it's not really that much.

Hell, rough number crunching, if you fed the stuff at a 1:5 ratio of it to regular feed, it'd be about the right amount to match one of the fifty-ish pound bags of chicken feed the chickens that used to be around here (maybe around 10-12 all told at their height?) went through over two or three months. Dunno what recommended servings are, though.

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Other Games / Re: Terraria - 1.3 released. Big Patch!
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:12:22 pm »
... anyone else noticed that solar eclipse possessed interact pretty ruddy oddly with conveyor belts? Because as the third or fourth one in the last minute or two moonwalkglides across the bottom of my screen at slime mount freefall speeds, I'm noticing they interact pretty oddly with conveyor belts.

Particularly inclines pushing they opposite direction they're going when they land on them. Causes 'em to superspeed screw off to wherever the end of the belt is. It's amusing, but also somewhat disconcerting.

E: bugger double posting

Anyway, yes. This erilipah... thing. It's a mod, adds some neat stuff, new biome. Biome's definitely interesting at least in the sense that you don't quite expect it when you first encounter enough devil rock the biome filter kicks on. Kinda' boring once you figure out what's up and actually find something that can mine it, but at least in the beginning it's pretty neat, something I'd put in the plus column for a modded run.

You might have noticed some of the caveats, there. Some point post wall, it apparently starts spreading. Despite a patch about two screens at most from my spawn, I didn't notice until a good while after killing plantera. The trick to it that takes things from just another spreading biome to something I would probably enjoy setting fire to, is that rather than spreading like your normal sort of aggressive biome, it spreads primarily a) by way of backwall, b) intentionally staying behind other blocks, and c) will happily convert player placed, house viable walling.

Which is to say I noticed the spread right about the time the filter kicked on in the right side of my base, at which point it had apparently spread behind probably 3/4ths of said base, cheerfully ignoring open backwall right up until the point the tiles making up walls and floors and whatnot had been converted.

That filter is basically a light dimmed negative filter, or something like that. While interesting as something to encounter, I call it the devil rock for a reason and it's pretty obnoxious to spend much time in. Quietly taking over your base, to all appearances intentionally trying to stay hidden until most of your shit is fucked? Massive. Dick. Move. Fixing would take a map editor or functionally tearing apart (as in completely replacing the backwall inside all the blocks my base and a bunch of other crap) my junk/relocating the NPCs well elsewhere.

Just... anyway. Don't. Maybe at some point it will develop further and have a means to manage the crap, but currently they don't and the shit's immune to clem solution. If you happen to ignore containment or some gets in anyway, it becomes a complete pain in the ass. The neat stuff and interesting when static and only when static biome ain't worth this shit.

Much later E2: The top speed of a slugger propelled ufo across a medium map's ceiling (without messing with portals or something, anyway) is roughly 865 mph. Knowledge is power, yo' joe it well.

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Basically they are mostly a bunch of upper middle class white do-gooders who in actuality tend to despise the common working man as uncouth. This might have something to do with the rise of Trump.
You got your parties mixed way the hell help, there. Dem support goes up as economic situation goes down (except with a subsection of the white population, anyway) for a reason, and "white upper middle class" is one of the areas actually in substantial contention electorate wise. Working man that's not more racist than poor knows which side the bread is buttered and it sure as fuck ain't the GOP these days, especially the friggin' trumpist "Is labor law something you eat?" wing.

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Matter of expertise, really. You're not obligated to have it but once you do there's some responsibilities that come with it, or you can expect the privileges that come with said expertise to bugger off, possibly with a bit extra as ye' old social contract isn't terribly cheerful about folks that are able sitting around when stuff's burning to the ground unless they got a reason substantially goddamn better than "I wasn't paid upfront."

We largely shit on doctors that refuse to give emergency aid when it's needed, paid or not, too, unless there is a real bloody good reason better than not being able to be immediately (or previously) paid for it. If the animus is less towards firefighters it's probably due to the field largely not being pants-on-head enough to privatize to the degree some of their guys are half-assing a modern reenactment of an old timey protection racket. Hell, even much of privatised medicine isn't quite that bad. It's pretty rare they won't at least do the equivalent of stopping a house from burning down if they're at all able to.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 19, 2017, 07:21:50 pm »
It's fairly easy, anyway, if kinda' leaning towards messy. Much like eating soup with a knife or sans silverware outright, you put your mouth to the edge of the container and use the flat bit to shovel things into the gullet.

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