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Mm... will say re: those shields you mentioned, it might be worth spoiling things a little and noting you're going to get yet another accessory slot eventually. My own critter actually has been rolling with two shields for a while now (think they're the component pair for an end-chain shield, iirc), since even with the HP freezing I (sorta') need max health to avoid getting squished, heh.

Think you might be able to get the multi-carapace thing already, now that I think about it. Iirc it's a pretty nice defense buff once you cobble the pieces together. Want to say it's the accessory turtle shells you can see dropped in the jungle that's a component, if you're looking for the recipe. There's a surface fungus mob that drops one, too.

Will say, if you haven't already done it before you go after the brimstone ele you probably want to hollow out a nice huge chunk of the calamity,* and maybe sizable portions of the surrounding underworld. WoF stuff might be enough, but you may want more verticality than those normally get built with. Don't think the ele itself is that bad, but what gets triggered in there afterwards is a different sort of story and you're pretty likely going to want quite a lot of maneuvering room. You're going to be dealing with very explicit bullet hell patterns while quite painful things are trying to ram you, heh.

If you're really feeling frisky, having a solid (and giant) line to the nearest underground hallow could eventually net you an otherwise inaccessible item. Apparently the profaned god has a special drop if you finish killing it in that biome.

* I eventually dug out pretty much everything above the bottom part of the center spot, heh. Dealing with the lava's mildly annoying but something around that level of materials offers complete lava immunity in a hat, so yeah. Makes some of the critter farming a bit more troublesome (theres something that starts spawning that's impressively irritating that can largely be neutered if you can shoot it through a wall), but both the space to maneuver and the ability to use skyfall weapons is real nice.

Yeah, corpse bloom is actually pre-wall. It's post skeletron and fairly rare, but that's it.

And yes, as you look for moths, know my pain and feel my suffering. Something like seven minutes straight of 30x spawn rate didn't get one of those bastards to show up. Did somewhat after the zerg pot wore out, but not during. Bloody things are a pain to find. Extra fun is when one shows up on the rare enemy finder, and then despawns before you can actually find it. Ruddy thing needs a direction indicator *grumbles*

Ehehe. You got the waifu, now you gotta' get the rare one

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Doing that was the reason I crafted the first zerg potion, I think. 2% drop rate on sand eles is just kinda' mean, doubly so when it's expert mode only. That said, if you got the sludge, you got the biggest piece. Battle potion, a bone serpent drop, and murky sludge are the mats needed. Thing's technically pre-wall, though I'm pretty sure it's functionally useless at that point unless you feel like dying for some reason. You kinda' need hard mode items to survive the potion's effect, 30x spawn rate is no joke, heh. I mean, it's actually kinda' hilarious the way everything jumps at you from everywhere but you need some pretty serious dakka or you gon' die with th'quickness.

So far as frostburn vs. other stuff, I'd definitely recommend doing comparison tests for a bit before swapping. You very badly want a source of ichor somewhere in your arsenal for a lot of the tougher mod critters, particularly as a summoner. Armor pen accessories might work, too (I have no idea if summons benefit from them or not), but ichor's a good bit easier.

Could just keep the armor bane around for a debuff swap weapon to whip out when your target stops being yellow... better stuff out there for that specific purpose, but it'd probably be better than not having it. There's accessories that give certain attacks random debuffs that can manage it, too. Sooner or later you'll run into the ichor portal thing and have a summon damage source for the debuff, heh.

If you're cloud ele hunting, you might want to bring something that can make it rain. At least feels like it boosts their spawn up a bit. Pretty sure there's something fairly early in hard mode you can craft that lets you toggle rain more or less at will... another one not that much past it that lets you flip the day/night cycle, which is tremendously useful.

Re: Beholder staves and firing rate, they're a bit weird. Sometimes the things will machine gun fire (for shooty minions, anyway), sometimes they pace it out a bit, and a pattern to it I haven't really noticed. Mostly would very much not recommend them for damage, though. They're good-ish for it, but not two minion slots good. You keep one around for the enemy detection until you have other means of that (my current guy mostly just spams clockwork bow around with an accessory that makes projectiles emit light. Reveals pretty much the entire screen I'm on, ehehe), and that's about it.

If you can get to it, I think you could get twisted bark from waking nightmares in the dungeon at this point, though I may be getting confused and that being post mechanical/plantera.* Once you can, definitely do. The critters it summons are pretty mean just by themselves, but they also come with a generic summons buff while they're out. Pretty sexy stuff, heh.

Thaaat said, if you have beholders you can probably survive spelunking in the jungle. Corpse bloom should be loitering around somewhere down there. Kill the thing and a NPC shows up that fixes any concern you'll have for plants for the rest of forever, ehehe.

Also yeah, healing may be more important, but don't forget at the absolute least the unholy glyph's effect is inherited by your summons. It's a pretty nice damage boost if you're looking for one. Can be good to have a mix of enchantments instead of just using one, yeh.

Costs a bit of money, but you're in hard mode on revengence, now. Money isn't going to be an issue for much longer. Current guy's frittering around trying to get up the scratch to stop being one-shot by late game spirit/calamity bosses, and occasionally loses 150-200 plat when something manages to kill 'em, with 300+ in the piggy bank. Cash inflates hard after a certain point, which I guess is good 'cause some of the boss summoning items also sell for upwards 30 plat a pop, and sinking fifty or sixty plat into getting a top grade modifier is pretty normal.

*E: Yeah, double check suggests it's post plantera dungeon. Bit of a ways away, then.

Later on you'll get a nice lil' thing for housing. Think thorium adds it, something like a one tile wall hanging that qualifies for everything a house needs. And yeah, I have no clue why the rogue needs that specific item instead of just a throwing weapon in general or something.

... any case, ceaseless void was a thing. Down side, took far longer than it should have. Up side, I got to see the DPS meter read 20k+ a few times, for a bit. Ruddy ridiculous fight. Bring AoE. Lots of AoE.

Also, I've kinda' noticed that fancy dyed (or at least purple ooze) lamia wraps apparently give female characters intermittently glowing nipples. Still not sure what to think about this development.

So you... want to send your alien foe a bombardment of the remains of their former planets that you destroyed?

That's a new level of harsh- to put that in perspective, that'd be like bombarding the Rebel Base on Hoth (Echo Base) with bits of Alderaan.

You're getting the idea, yes. Probably make a closer comparison to bombarding whatever outer rim world was next with bits of bakura, after getting fed up with trying to stuff their population into your computers' batteries.

Hoth was pretty empty, if you're going to drop the wreckage of a destroyed planetary population onto another planetary population you want to hit something with a bit more impact, and the whole needlessly sadistic alien lizard people stuffing the souls of xeno non-people into pain matrices to power their kitchen appliances and whatnot is a lot more in line with turning a planet's debris field into the proverbial rocks fallen.

Re: NPCs, probably the main one I could see missing is the Rogue. Can't remember you mentioning it and quick thread search didn't turn up anything either.

Thing has a piece of a pretty ballin' ranged accessory, but the requirements are something really easy to miss. I didn't figure it out until I actually looked up how to find the piece at some point post plantera, and found out it was in the inventory of a pre-wall NPC, heh. Thing's mostly throwing related, but I think there's one or two generically useful bits, too.

... any case, if you haven't yet, take the time to forge some iron level shuriken and keep at least one in your inventory. Because that is the requirement. Not a throwing weapon, not any particular shuriken, but specifically an iron tier one sitting in your inventory. As far as I'm aware absolutely nothing drops them, so unless you happen to craft that particular sort of one for some reason, it's hella' easy to miss the guy.

E: And ah, re: party girl, far as I'm aware what she has new is a ranged weapon I haven't got around to trying. It lists itself as actually doing pretty hefty base damage for the point you can get it, and iirc it's the material for a hard mode gun or somethin', too. Spirit mod puts it in, checking.