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And here we go. Mandatory evac orders for a couple houston subdivisions, states they (county flood whatever) think the possibility of a storm pump failure is high enough the people there need to get GTFO. Pretty sure there's also increasing worry of a levee breach pretty soon. Also very non-zero possibilities of dam failures in the near future. Basically reaching the point the already fucked system has reached or may soon reach its bullshit tolerance limit and is getting ready to nope on out of there and leave everyone to get buggered.

E: Also hey, RK, you wanted a go at gatornadoes? Nature may soon provide the chance.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 28, 2017, 07:28:58 pm »
Pretty sure it's P. SITS. Guy who has an agenda isn't even remotely snappy.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 28, 2017, 03:21:00 pm »
Not quite what I'd call a related subject, since I don't think vets are military surplus being sold to non-military organizations, but yeah, it's been said. Probably more an argument against releasing the surplus again, though. Just highlights most of who'd be using them haven't been particularly trained for it, heh.

Any case, I'd like to think there aren't any circumstances where the use of explosive rounds would be authorized, too... but I'd much rather the option just not be on the table. Think folks have mentioned, trouble with that stuff seems always that the people acquiring them feel the need to justify the price of procurement and maintenance. Cops seem to have an unfortunate habit of trying to find a way, with the occasional wildly less than optimal results :-\

Better just to make sure the kit they have is sufficient for what they deal with without much needing to tap leftover miljunk, and maybe spend the money that'd go to getting and keep military grade stuff on training or somethin' instead.

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Crosspost to the ameripol thread or somethin'? RK asked to take it elsewhere if it's not fairly relevant to the immediate stuff.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 28, 2017, 12:29:38 pm »
Remember how we were just talking about your friendly neighborhood Judge Dredd police?

45 is set to remove limits on the militarization of local police departments.
Because remember folks: What our undertrained and underfunded police forces need is expensive to maintain equipment they have little to no training in the use of that's overkill for the vast majority of everything they do. Surely it will help out somewhere. Somehow.

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I swear to whatever gods may or may not exist, if you people around florida sink before it does I'm not forgiving any of you.

... also stay safe and all that. Hopefully there's not going to be some kind of unholy amalgamation event in complete defiance of current forecasts.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 28, 2017, 11:04:55 am »
The KDP didn't have much besides hate and murder for the nazis, though. Ain't no homage to the latter in that flag.

... now, what I want to know. Is wherever that's circulating actually saying the communist party of germany became the national socialist one? Because if so that's a holy shit level of history check fail, heh.

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Realistically... yeah, probably. It's been said for a while now, as y'say, but I'd probably say this is the first time it's actually really been hammered. Decade later major storm coming in and even worse, decade old major storm still not recovered from. You'd hope it might actually finally goddamn sink in to some degree.

Still. Basically just means that this area's probably going to effectively be deadlands in another century or three. Maybe less depending on exactly how the atmosphere shifts about. Somehow we're going to have to figure out how to move or bury(/let rot) a few tens of millions of people.

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At least they don't have to contend with the pumps keeping them from becoming a modern day Atlantis constantly breaking down.
It'd help. Conceptually a lot is (likely to end up being) better condition wise for recovery for SE tex than it was for louisiana. But, y'know. Better =/= good, and all that.

Will say, one thing this has definitely drove home for me is that us folks out here around the gulf... we can't really afford to keep fucking around. Once a decade storms of this magnitude of impact are apparently more than this general area can particularly rally from before the next hits, and there's better than even odds that rate is going to maintain or get more frequent.

If we don't get to the point we can handle cat 4+ hurricanes and historic flooding without needing recovery efforts like katrina's aftermath had, or harvey's is looking to have, we're going to attrition out with variable degrees of speed over the next two or three or so generations... couple hundred years, whatever. Or at least get to where we can recover in a much shorter time period. And/or, really. Both is good.

But... as is, we're not going to be able to get away much longer with flood control reservoirs that aren't built expecting shit we've never seen before, or regional flood insurance rates around 15%, or road conditions that can't manage to transport tens(/hundreds) of thousands without trouble even during heavy flooding, or coastal buildings that get knocked down by mere 140+ mph winds and multi-foot storm surges, and all the rest of it. Basically, the window for where not building what effectively are fortress cities geared for natural disaster is an option is shrinking. And, like. Single generation/lifetime shrinking, which is fucking terrifying if considering an environmental time scale.

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This is going to take forever and a day to recover from.
Ho yes, yes it is. Not so cheerful reminder that the population of new orleans still hasn't recovered to pre-katrina days. Which was back in '05. Twelve years and counting.

And the impact of harvey is pretty certainly going to be worse :-\

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 28, 2017, 10:19:19 am »
I'm. Pretty sure the anti-fascists in general don't call themselves the paramilitary wing of the democrat party. Mostly because they're not a wing of anything, or a singular entity, or particularly related to the dems or anything else in any number of cases.

Antifa isn't a group, it's a label for a number of 'em. I'd say it's like alt-right as a term, but it's probably closer to evangelical so far as that sort of usage goes.

In any case, that particular flag design makes a fair amount of sense for 'em. They trend far left, and have something of a general inclination towards throwing down against nazis and related ilk. The lenin/stalinist connection is fairly iffy, though. Probably less sketchy so far as that goes than the confed battle flag, heh, least so far as stateside stuff is concerned.

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I'unno, just a katrina moment might be preferable when this all finishes falling out. The population in the process of losing home and livelihood are a few multiples of what katrina hammered. The size of the metaphorical dropped plate in this spinning act is helluva' lot larger.

Screwing up in regards to a population just the size of what got scattered in Louisiana could easily end up being light compared to what has the potential to happen with this mess.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 28, 2017, 08:01:31 am »
Eh, I think they generally spin off into artificial (sub)dimensions before the world itself gets destroyed, MSH. Either intentionally or because some god and/or other meddling wizard tricks them into it some way or another. I can only assume there's a divine of Subtle Wizard Herding quietly existing somewhere in the background of whatever pantheons are involved making sure things don't blow up.

... alternatively, timeline splitting. Lots and lots of timeline splitting. The world gets destroyed a lot, but it happens in throwaway temporal strands and the causes mutually annihilate.

Also pretty sure trained owlbear maids are a thing, scriv. How well they manage on the latter bits of that, I'unno, but...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 28, 2017, 07:51:37 am »
Way I figure it, arx, at some point people in the setting figure out they need to just stop telling wizards what can or cannot happen.

"Vampires can't get pregnant, Elminster!"

"Oh yeah? Hold this, I'm drunk enough to prove you wrong."

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 28, 2017, 07:31:46 am »
That depends entirely on the mechanics of undead in the setting in question. Sometimes vamps are (cross)fertile despite being undead.

More than just them, really, and at times even when they're not horrific abuse of magic and/or science occasionally finds a way. I wouldn't be claiming she couldn't get knocked up post death without justification more solid than "is undead". Settings with vampires in them have probably impregnated chairs before, never mind things that actually have/had a functioning biological system.

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