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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 07:26:25 pm »
Yeah, apparently north korea's doing missile tests more or less at the moment? Plus harvey coming in? And apparently now's the time to pardon the bastard. Sucking off the country's white supremacists was more important than concerns of nuclear exchange and the possibility of swaths of one of our most important states ending up underwater. Donald J. Fucking Trump, ladies and gents.

I mean, my opinion of him can't really get worse after what the fucker said in relation to folks that stood up to goddamn nazis, but I'll be damned if he ain't giving it a try.

All I can say is hopefully the state's going to look at that pardon, go, "Thanks for the admission of guilt," and then throw whatever books they can lob at joe shitsack.

E: And nah helg, no one can stop 'im, far as I can recall. President can pardon whoever, whenever, so long as they're guilty of a federal crime. Why, well, because the racist shitbag is popular with other racist shitbags our racist shitbag supporting bastard of a POTUS feels the need to politically fellate.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 05:53:29 pm »
the thing is, you only get negative news about Latin America and no news on how much progress there is behind the scenes.
That... is exactly what I said. Not sure what the rest of it was shoved in there for. Wasn't making any comment besides noting singling out nyt on that front doesn't mean terribly much when it's a folly of more or less every major (and minor, really) news network in the US.

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I... have no idea how consolidated would even be used in that manner, tbh.

Not the most considerate of state borders was understated euphemism for "The storm does not give a single fuck where your map lines are, it's coming for your ass."

E: Speaking of which, apparently it's going through another spike phase, and looking like it may actually hit cat 4 before landfall. We may be having a town or two flat wiped from the map in the next few days :-\

E2: And by before I mean the NHC just pinned the cat 4 badge on it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 04:25:25 pm »
Though mind there, it's not like nyt is special on that front. Basically all the news in the US ignores anything not negative south of the border, and often enough barely pays attention even to what is.

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Hedgehog, but for meteorological phenomena. Goes real fast alluva' sudden, inasmuch as sudden is applicable to stuff on the scale of a hurricane.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 04:18:42 pm »
Like. What are you calling significant portion, here? Because I'm pretty sure you could dredge up at least a good 15-20% of the population more or less saying that about any news outlet in this country, up to and including the AP which basically everyone else ultimately gets most their junk from.

And ninja'd a bit, but yeah. Good chunk of the stuff's honestly pretty close to what would probably be considered centrist in europe, but... we've had a fairly dedicated campaign aiming to fuck the credibility of our news going for the last decade or three or somethin'. Chunk of the country trusts nothing a different chunk does, and vice versa.

... though it's not exactly a same on both ends kind of thing. One of those chunks puts a good deal of trust in sources descending from limbaugh's style of "reporting". Which is birdy's mention, yes. Bah.

E: You kinda' have to remember that the current atmosphere for that kind of thing has like a fifth or sixth or summat of this country calling explicitly literal facts, straight up politically unrelated information, fake news. It's possibly not the best heuristic :V

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Most of the east coast'll be fiiiiine. As things get when a hurricane comes visiting, anyway. Most of the time cat 1s and 2s (which is what harvey is predicted to be when/if it starts hitting other parts of the coast, iirc) don't do too much outside the flood zones and the parts of the local coastline directly hit.

... just maybe not texas's east coast, specifically. They're probably kinda' boned.

Though eh, smj, that's a maybe. There's at least one series of possible events (gets loose from the highs it's currently loitering between, goes atmosonic as hurricanes occasionally do) that ends up with it still cat 1 and hitting kentucky. Regardless, most of the general area's going to be seeing rain, possible flooding, etc. Hurricanes generally aren't the most considerate of things like state borders.

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Naaah, that guy's curse would be different. Swarm of geriatric Humping Lepers (which are like normal lepers, except much friskier in ways no one is really comfortable with) descending on the country as per a plague of locusts, biblical style. Something like that.

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Yeeaaah, more recent outlook seems to be suggesting a rainfall peaking in the upper 40s range, like, barely below 50 outright.

If the numbers are on point and it ends up like that, harvey'll end up topping tex's record (~48). Which was the second heaviest rainfall the US in its entirety has seen since the stuff was getting recorded.

... half makes me wonder if the grocery store chain'll be changing its name in the near future. Maybe if they end up wanting to start putting down stores further west than they have so far...

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 12:00:39 pm »
Nah. Accurate or not, swamps are hot, other swamp-like things that aren't, aren't swamps. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 07:04:44 am »
Eh, either/or. Or both, I guess. Was talkin' water, though. Not people related other than us swimming in them and screwing with the local environment to wreck 'em to various degrees.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:39:43 am »
Sheeit mang, draining doesn't really help a lot of these places. Water just comes back, 'cause they're coming from up north or underground. You gotta' fill 'em, and then hope some time in the future your junk doesn't fall over and sink, possibly after catching fire.

Suppose it's conceptually possible, but you wouldn't have to drain the swamp, you'd have to empty the aquifer, burn out the caverns, and turn much of the area between here and the Appalachians into dessicated deadlands. Then probably knock most of said range mountain down, to keep things from rolling back down it. Possibly empty the atlantic and/or solve global warming to keep the storms from trying to ramp up.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:29:48 am »
Oi. The water's not actually that bad over here, in most places. Or at least wasn't the last time I went swimming in some of 'em. I'd probably avoid the major beaches out of principle, but, y'know, this is a goddamn swamp. State's lousy with water. If y'don't like the beaches (also, probably avoid them during fall or winter -- the water's much nicer, then, but you can also get jellyfish swarms coming in with the tide*), we got springs, flooded caverns, some rivers that won't curse your children's genetic code should you dare to swim in them, etc. One of the few things that approach an upside to this damed state.

... the springs can be ridiculously nice in the summer, by the by. So long as it's not (too) snake and/or gator infested. Probably the coldest things here that aren't underground or air conditioned. Only trouble mostly being that you eventually have to get out, and they're usually still fairly exposed to the sunlight, heh.

*E: Or could a handful of years back. Now that I think of it, the spill might have done something on that front. It's been longer than that since I did any beach swimming, heh.

... mostly because I stopped going to the beach very often after getting to see one of those swarms come in. Nice set of goggles, pop your head under the water, literally every direction you see, as far as you can see, inundated with jellyfish. It's not pleasant. Didn't get stung, but folks near me did.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 24, 2017, 08:55:21 pm »
Oh. Well, I'm pretty sure the deadline itself isn't going to budge. They might pass some kind of interim thing continuing previous operations (or whatever the blazes it is they do along those lines... forgot exactly what's involved) for a while, I guess? I could pretty easily see a lot of congresscritters (particularly GOP wards where stagnation on that front, with the consequent degradation in services, is effectively meeting some of their political goals) being pretty cheerful (in a relative sense, depending how many new corpses are generated) about having an excuse to kick the can down the road a ways.

So far as negotiations and whatnot go... eesh. That's probably going to depend a lot on what happens. If trump and/or the GOP is seen as handling the aftermath poorly, gods know what'll happen 'cause I ain't go no clue. If it's middling it probably won't change much. If by some odd turn of events, the response ends up being effective and well managed, well, see the poor situation.

End of the day this kind of thing is seen as pretty fundamental to the gov't's operation, fed and state. Screw it up and things aren't going to be the the most rosy for a while. Do well and you might manage to pull something else off. Trick there being there's only so much the GOP is willing to do that wouldn't be blatantly counterproductive to anything that'll be pulling anyone texaways's arse out the water, so even if it does it's questionable how much it can be leveraged on the conservative side of things.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 24, 2017, 08:25:31 pm »
Budget is budget, smj. Emergency funds might be pulled up as needed, but that's reactive, not preparedness and real time response, the stuff that saves lives and livelihoods. The main stuff is still going to have an effect. All the money in the world can only help so much if it's being funneled into infrastructure (human, organizational, and physical) that can't use all of it. Cash and manpower infusion is great and all, but you get trouble when you're trying to throw a bunch of it around and most of the manpower is various degrees of untrained and the channels necessary to funnel the money where it needs to go metaphorical rusty.

... and we've long been having trouble on the infrastructure and disaster relief side of things, which is what is needed on the hurricane et al front. Needs normal operational budgets worth note and folks with enough organizational experience and connections to get stuff where it needs to go to be able to be prepared for when the gods decide its kegger time and some part of the country gets pissed on from on high.

E: Hopefully we got enough, and this ends up not being bad enough, that we mostly manage. Gods know we've got some damned dedicated people scattered over this country able and willing to throw themselves at the problem be they paid or not.

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