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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:12:25 am »
Wee bit of difference between not being inclined towards giving something weight and delighting in it, neo. Just a titch. You don't have to be a bloody sadist to not really give a shit about supremacists getting bit back.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 09:55:04 am »
Nobody else will do it in this country, so until we can do a good squelching on the burning churches and stuff like what happened in this particular event, it's the only bloody choice you got. Welcome to 'murrica, where after a bout of domestic terrorism the POTUS had some fun dumping responsibility on both sides of the issue, then later gave a half-hearted condolence to the injured and dead closed out with a writing tic habitually used to denigrate political opponents.

In mean time, please, excuse me if I'm not terribly moved by the emotional distress of people who support widespread ethnic cleansing and cheerfully welcome murder.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 09:11:00 am »
If a Riot between Pro-Life and Pro-Choice fought each other to the death... Who would you single out?
All other things being equal? The one with a history of domestic terrorism seems like a damn good default position. Maybe there's some vanishingly small chance something else happened. But I wouldn't blame bloody anyone for assuming the pro-life crowd was the primary cause and driver.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 08:48:33 am »
... trust me, wild dislike isn't "just" the reason people dismiss white supremacists and their supporters.

In any case, it'd take digging through trump's twitter that I really don't goddamn want to do, but I'm pretty sure the number of left-wing riots (or even things far less than that, that could be spun) that trump hasn't commented on over the last few years are very, very few. He's also entirely goddamn willing to jump all sorts of guns on any number of other subjects.

It's been said before. Trump may or may not actually be ideologically inclined towards white supremacist positions on a personal level. He lies about fuckeverything, so gods only know. But he very much is willing to pander to them, and as duke so cheerfully pointed out in the last day or two, a notable portion of what electoral success he had was dependent on them.

Whatever agenda that person was pushing is pretty damn founded in what trump's been doing.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 07:51:29 am »
I mean. To be fair, if rehab centers gave everyone inside 'em a sack of rocks and let them loose with a directive to bury the the rocks in peoples' yards, you'd probably get some awareness of something pretty damn fast?

I'm just not so sure it would be the opioid mess.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 13, 2017, 07:41:13 am »
... is. Is there actually a growing trend of people taking pictures of themselves besides painted rocks, and putting it on social media? Like. Is colored rock hide and seek a thing, now? Do I need to be ready to throw unpainted ones when some nut tries to bury a multicolored rock in my yard? Just how holy shit out of touch is this guy?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 09:15:04 pm »
I don't think the officials would really want to admit publicly that they're responsible for forcing them into the clash. It's ancedotial, though playergamer said that he saw it on livestream.

edit: Are you SURE 'proper procedure' is to force them into conflict?
... are you sure it's not?

Gods fuck but I'd like to think it wasn't, but this is also american police. Given the extent it's been noted white supremacists and similar shitheels have infiltrated our body of officers, even if it wasn't proper procedure it could have been entirely too goddamn intentional on their part anyway.

Probably "just" gross incompetence, to the extent the cops are to be blamed for anything that's happened today,* though. That and your standard degrees of concern when one of the groups involved are white and right-wing, anyway.

* Which is only so much, for what fairness is to be given. End of the day it wasn't them that decided to commit domestic terrorism/vehicular homicide, this time. Or beat people with lit torches. All the other shit.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:42:31 pm »
I came across that claim, too... but for all I've seen yet, that's still just a claim.

I'm cynical enough about law enforcement attitudes towards these things, that it doesn't take much to convince me, though.
Yeah... maybe this time it just was folks getting things mixed up or somethin'. It'd be... nice isn't the right word, but something vaguely shaped like it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:25:23 pm »
Yeah. Iirc there were cops nearby just kinda' watching, at some point or another. Dunno if it was in the vid or not.

And yeah, that was what the craven piece of shit bit was about.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:14:25 pm »
Speaking of Spencer, allegedly he was there and got arrested?
There appears to be pictures, at the absolute least.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:05:23 pm »
Huh. Well, at least one GOP critter looks to have had the balls to at least say it straight on twitter, gods know if they'll go further than that. Can't really recall how surprising it is to be coming from rubio, though.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 02:46:14 pm »
... they broke through a line of cars to ram into a group of counter protesters, yes. Frankly caution can fuck right off at the moment.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 02:44:29 pm »
Yeah, there's video. If it's not intentional, it was god's own hand making it look like it was.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 02:37:03 pm »
Yeah, mayor's confirmed. Wonder if that'll actually get the craven piece of shit we have in office to actually call right-wing terrorism what it is, this time. Wouldn't give good odds, but stranger things have happened.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread: D. C. on summer break
« on: August 12, 2017, 01:34:55 pm »
... yeah, looks like there may or may not be the shitfest's first fatality. Some fuckwit rammed a vehicle into a group of counter protesters. Least what I'm currently hearing about is double digit injured, one non-responsive. Hopefully they'll make it :-\

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