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... for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure it provokes more of a wtf response than you see. Just often fairly involved to make substantive response on the subject, particularly if folks are already saying most of what they'd say.

So people otherwise agreeing just kinda' don't speak up, y'know? Takes more effort than they got on the topic, at that particular moment in time.

I wonder how those judges would feel if they were kidnapped and held prisoner for 3 years, and then released, just for no reason.

Probably pretty damn bad, but it's also not really their job to stop things like that. It often works out that way anyway, but that's because often the screwing is, in fact, not fastidiously legal.

The problem here's the (lack of) law itself more than interpretation, which is the legislative's job to unfuck (and the people's to say to 'em, "Yo', unfuck this shit."), not the judiciaries. The judges mostly seem to have done what they were supposed to do, basically, is just what they filter that through (the legal situation vis a vis immigration and immigration courts et al), in this case, happens to be kinda' shit.

Or in other words, both the majority and that bit of dissenting opinion looks to be mostly correct, it's just that the mandate to fix the mess referenced by the latter is someone else's shtick.

"There is no right to a court-appointed attorney in immigration court." Oof, that's the problem right there. Not to mention an identity mixup.

I mean... it is a problem, but it's also pretty explicitly by design. Most things immigration related are not criminal issues. Think a good chunk aren't even civil ones, so far as the court system goes, iirc. Which means the constitutional protections given to criminals and those engaged in civil disputes are not extended to those getting shat on, rightly or otherwise, by immigration courts.

This is done for a whole host of incredibly farcically shitty reasons and one really goddamn practical one, namely that giving immigration supplicants, or issues related to them, or people mistaken for them, the full procedural rights given civil or (gods forbid) criminal cases, would grind our legal system and our immigration system and probably chunks of our law enforcement et al system to a screaming halt. Things that take years, now, would probably end up taking decades. Isp would probably have fun imagining an immigration system that both has to pay for all the extra by itself and works several times slower.

So yeah, fellow didn't get a court appointed attorney. Regardless of the ethical aspect (and, don't mistake that, I'd fall real hard in favor of full protections for everyone for everything if I wasn't being hauled into ambivalence land by the concept of lawyers that need sleep) , the logistics one takes one look at the concept and starts screaming about happy happy fractally recursive self-fucking hell. It's exaggerating, a bit, but it's around the right level of whooping terror.

Nah, a preplanned riot is just kinda' a preplanned riot, far as I'm aware. Rebellion takes more taking over as opposed to breaking shit someone that can fix things cares about until they get off their ass for things they don't.

... for what it's worth (not much, since what we do have generally isn't exactly in the favor of the right wing, all in all, it's rather frustratingly difficult to actually find the right kind of data you'd need to look at to identify a legitimate trend of one sort or another. For whatever reason no one seems to be particularly interested in keeping an up to date-ish tally on political violence that includes more mundane stuff.

Closest decent source I've seen was recommended by RedKing: TEVUS, which primarily deals with domestic terrorism/extremist material. Requires you to request access,* but it's pretty damn neat. Just not really good for tracking a general population trend. That sort of behavior doesn't seem to really track all that hard to more general sorts of violence/hostility/etc.

* Though if they let me have access, the standard for entry is probably not even remotely high. Does take a few days to process, if anyone feels like giving it a go.

... in any case, in other news we appear to have a FBI director again. Christopher Wray, it seems. Can't recall much about him save something with christie, at th'mo', but I guess it's maybe better than not having one.

Yeah, unless something's been added since the last time I played, dominate's the only way to get access to a minion's level-up stuff. Is why if you're planning on doing basically anything with minions (that isn't plantspam, anyway), you take dominate.

Iirc you don't even have to put points into it afterwards. Just need that one so you can fiddle with things.

Kinda' would think one way of doing that would roughly be "The two biggest ones agree and quietly let the rest of them know they can get in formation or get in line for an asskicking."

Even if it doesn't get all of 'em to get on board, if it gets most then suddenly the remainder find themselves in a considerably worse situation with far less room to fly under the (variously literal) radar. Once you get the biggest tangle out of a mess, the smaller ones become much easier to get to, y'know?