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... huh. Did youtube finally get around to completely disabling flash support?

Even as a monument it is lacking.

I'd sooner support a billion dollar statue of Abe Luncheon.

In fact why not just build it? Abe Luncheon was a very important American that a lot of people look up to.

... I think you'll find autocorrupt has mislead you as to american appreciation of historical figures.

E: Though just to make it clear, the last bit of that last post wasn't directed at you, baff. I'm not even remotely hostile to a good faith argument from the perspective of fiscal efficiency and military budget vis a vis human resources, even if I'm somewhat skeptical there's a particular good one to be had, here, considering what else seems to be considered acceptable. It's just that this particular issue is so blatantly fucking not that I'm not entirely sure how to word an appropriate response.

Well... only problem besides all the other problems, anyway. Think the price comparison of the military budget is every bit of trans medical costs vis a vis military = ~1 (one) abrams, ferex. Which, hey, I seem to recall this congress (or at least much or it) steamrolling over military requests to cut down on producing new tanks.

Think I already said it, pretty sure RK said it, no doubt lots of other people have said it. Anyone bringing up the costs involved as meaningful is kinda' spouting bullshit. There's maybe an argument to be had re: individual soldier costs,* but that's pretty much the whole and complete totality of it.

*I'm actually not sure there, though, oddly enough. There's more than just the straight medic costs involved -- as baff noted your calculus point is return in investment, and there's some interesting wrinkles there. Trans soldiers are apparently pretty heavily represented in spec ops, ferex, but which is an interesting bit of trivia considered the whole currently serving total is estimated at around the 15k on the high end.

Did... anyone actually compare the costs of a single procedure to the total military budget? Like, I've been skimming a bit 'cause shit's getting weird, but I didn't notice that come up.

Also probably worth noting viagra is more shorthand than identifier; stateside it's borderline the common use word for that sort of medication.

The cost includes similar medications, and so far as I'm aware is specifically counting stuff prescribed for ED, not anything else. Dunno if viagra used for heart treatment would have been included, basically.

EDIT: Guys...it's not about the cost. It's never been about the cost. That's just a convenient excuse so they can claim they're not transphobic.

Oh aye. But the actual costs involved make for a very easy thing to point to as evidence the excuse is bullshit.

In any case, good news everybody! If you were wondering about implementation, the WH has now done a press briefing where they answer that question.

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To paraphrase, their answer was, "We don't know." Implementation going forward? Didn't have a plan. Recall of current enlisted? No goddamn clue.

Trump administration, ladies and gents.

E: Also, it's looking rather like the first notification the military got of this change in personnel policy was the tweets. Words fail.