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You'd think, but that nonsense developed specifically because a point blank not interested wasn't enough for some people. Occasionally a critter is largely only capable of noticing the clue by four when it has some sort of spike embedded in it, for whatever reason.

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And FFS, you want to talk about condescension? "I know everything you're saying so it has no value to me so stop talking." That is literally the reverse of "woman, shut your mouth, no one needs to hear you talk!"
Eeehhh... nah, wouldn't quite agree there. The difference between "no value to me" and "no one" is pretty significant. Actually acknowledging the statement has value even if not to you specifically also is a hell of a difference. May be condescension in both but it's a hella' different type and/or magnitude.

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The problem with that is that "mansplaining" is constantly used for the sole purpose of ensuring that no dialogue can take place, allowing the person using the term to win by default.
Or just end the conversation. The whole "win" perspective is kinda' part of the problem the term popped up regarding, really. Sometimes a person isn't trying to goddamn fight you, they just don't want your input. Alway's kinda' said repeatedly that ensuring no dialogue can take place is more or less the entire point. People not being able to disengage without considering some stupid shit lost is probably half the reason the thing's around.

... and ninja'd, but I'm entirely too tired right now to just delete it and move on. Consider it a +1 or some crap, I'unno. Don't even really know why the hell we're having this conversation in here.

Any case, the critics can kinda' stuff it if they're going to refuse to acknowledge there's reasons for that button to exist, methinks.

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I'unno, I remember the past re: basic facts more characterized by flat ignorance than respect. Didn't really have the same degree of pointing to contradictory bullshit, but folks also just kinda' didn't bloody hear about a lot of junk.

Half willing to posit is awareness is exactly what happened: You had the same sort of folks back then (fairly literally in a lot of cases), but they didn't have nearly as much interaction with stuff they disagree with for whatever reason. Nowadays more people get pricked with the cactus needle of reality and react by doing that blood laser thing those lizards do. The blood flinging lizard people were always there, but there weren't as many cacti and the cacti that was around didn't have thorns of near the length and girth they do today.

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Man, don't go saying things that could get people thinking about ways to prevent that. Wouldn't be the first music/etc. venture that had a "solution" for it.

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« on: June 03, 2017, 10:55:41 am »
Probably? What's going wrong?

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Nah, pretty sure that stuff's kinda'... canvas-y, iirc. Not (nearly) that far, but sort of in that direction. That type of rough. Stiffer than your average paper, also usable for foldystuff. Rougher, not necessarily rough. Something like that.

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For what it's worth, poking around a bit suggests it might just be something like convergent evolution. Not necessarily a specific style or something, but more a set of colors and highlights and whatnot folks just tend to end up using. Contrasty things et al. The browning seems to be largely just an antique filter/aging effect, which is mostly just a stylistic flourish, or an artifact of common drawing paper, with the rest (dark lines, white outline) falling out of it more or less organically just 'cause it's good complimentin'. Ultimately not much more meaningful than sketches usually using a white background and dark lines made with pen or pencil.

E: All that said, totes could just email/message/whatever an artist that uses the pattern and ask 'em. If I'd noticed the question a bit earlier I would have just asked mi madre, heh.

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Oooh.

... common/easy to use effects in major photo editing software? Could swear there's some mimicry there of old stuff, too, actually. Just hit me that sort of general color scheme was fairly signature of, like... old autographed disney art and crap, if I'm not completely misremembering things.

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Makes sense. One would expect left-wing terrorism to be centered in those places that the left in general is strongest, as is with the right. The extremes of the right are more geographically spaced and perhaps also are encouraged by rural isolation.
I mean, you'd think, and at least with idle consideration it's somewhat accurate, but... still, as noted, left and right wing extremists both share two states in their top three favored(?), and while the positions and amounts are basically flipped, the numbers are something approaching equal. No points if you can guess which they are, but now that I think about it, population probably has a fair bit more to do with it than most things. More people, more events. Now that I pop the (google) map (with each event pinned) back out, there's definitely concentration in populated areas.

... florida kinda' looks almost weirdly... gods, whatever the word is, not dense. There's definitely some and there's a definite concentration in a couple of completely unsurprising places (again, population), but compared to some of the other major population zones it almost looks kinda' half-ignored. Not even sure what to begin to think about that. Though on one hand, I can kinda' see it. These sorts of things take a fair amount of drive and dedication and whatnot, much of the time, and that shit's a lot easier to dredge up when the air isn't trying to broil you. Instead of political extremists, we get florida man, he/she/it of cook-ed brain.

E: Bloody hell, now that I look again that's actually a scarily plausible hypothesis. Areas in line the the top of florida actually look to be relatively sparse for their general state/region/etc., and in general the more extreme the environment, the less the number of events; obviously that has a lot to do with population density, but... still.

E2: ... now I kinda' want to see this stuff mapped out on a temperature map. Hrm.

E3: I swear to fornication, if I'm still alive when it's noticed and it turns out global warming causes a depression in extremist activities by sheer dint of everyone being too goddamn miserable to muster to the effort to cause problems, I am going to hurt something. I don't know what, but something.

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... other than anime in general? I don't particularly know, but if I had to wager a guess it would be starting resources for just that. Looks about in line with a higher quality example of some of the end results of those "how to draw anime" books that have littered shelves for a while (like, since the 90s or something) now.

Which would be both where it came from and why it's so popular, if that guess is correct; helluva' lot of artists faffing about nowadays cut their teeth on stuff like that, or were involved to some degree with someone who did. Those sort of instruction/intro books have pretty easily been one of the easier to find and engage with resources for a beginning artist you could just sorta' casually pick up -- and they've been that for a good chunk of a lot of artists entire lives, nowadays. Given that, it's pretty unsurprising it'd be common.

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As much as I like Biden, he's also got a history... and far too many creepy pictures of him touching women and girls to make him a safe choice to run in such an uncertain era.
Hey, it'd still be a improvement over what we've got now. Maybe finagle things and have him run on the republican ticket, they don't seem to care much about silly junk like sexual infidelity and whatnot.

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Huh. TEVUS submission went through. Need to poke around a bit to find out exactly what I'm not supposed to mention sans permission, but, uh. Even in like three minutes of use this thing is pretty neat. Hopefully it's general enough to mention that apparently a full half of left-wing domestic terror incidents since... '74, if I'm parsing this right. Occurred in three states. Over a quarter in one. Right wing is rather notably more spread out, though two of its most hit areas are shared with that top three, if not in the same order.

Left wing incidents also seem to be notably better... understood, I guess. Right has unknown for location in its top three, whereas it's down a bit for the left. That's somewhat surprisingly unsurprising, I think. Common sentiment is that stateside enforcement is notably more lackadaisic about right wing extremism, even when it's significantly (like, around twice vis a vis what tevus's sources cover) more likely, and at least on the face of it that kind of lack of information is pretty much exactly what you would expect if that were accurate.

Now we poke around the time related stuff and... jeez, what the hell happened in '93? I'd actually guess it was some sort of change in tracking and enforcement, but incidents bloody doubled that year, while general crime was starting its downslope.

... anyway, at least so far as what these folks track, the answer to if extremist acts are trending towards an increase is "Definitely not." Shit spikes up and down, doubles and halves what appears to be fairly randomly (i.e. the trend is a lot less trend-y), and largely looks to be roughly on par with early (pre-93) 90s numbers in terms of events in a few years leading up to 2015 (haven't actually finished poking things to get a full per-year count, 'cause I'm damn hungry and about to go feed myself, but I've tallied the bits from the start of what I'm first checking (period from 1990 to their latest, which is 2015) and the end), which is, uh. Our 2015 population was about 150% of what it was in 1990, up by a handful of millions short of a full 100 of 'em. Would suggest that to some degree the extremist ends of political violence are actually dropping, on the net.

Which would actually sorta' be what you'd expect, given the general crime trend, though parts of the extremist timeline doesn't even remotely mirror the general one. Interesting stuff. Entirely too specific for what I was curious about, heh, but still interesting.

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Which is also what Macron didn't give Trump with his handshake antics.
... clarify a bit? Not sure whose handshake antics you're talking about, exactly. Trump had plenty of room to maintain dignity with that particular incident, if you're talking about macron's response -- all trump had to do was not start things off trying to be a power playing jackass, or at least offer due respect when he was met in kind. The lesson there was that not everyone is going to roll over when the guy tries to shit on them, more than anything about necessary cooperation.

Though the bit I'd add to the dilemma question is whether it matters if trump can learn or not, because the lesson is an important one to be (seen) teaching even if the other side is refusing to learn. Even if the material calculations come out in favor of going supine for a few years and then fixing shit, the ethical/cultural/etc. ones might not, y'know? Becoming known as someone that's going to capitulate if the other actor evinces sufficiently bad behavior can end up... not exactly ideal, on fields both foreign and domestic. Demanding a modicum of respect from a stronger power is risky, but so is not. And accurate or not, there's going to be folks who decide the not is riskier.

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I dunno, I can't help think that at least part of the reason Trump pulled out is a tantrum at the way Europeans leader in general and Macron in particular treated him abroad. I don't think he react well to opposition, the way to go is to flatter is dumb ego and make him think he had the idea in the beginning.
Well... yes, trump's reaction to people not falling over to metaphorically and literally fellate him has a fair amount to do with how things are playing out. Pretty sure most world leaders don't really have the option to audition as probationary members of the trump tower brothel, though. When you're on camera and in the eyes of the entire world there's only so much room available to flatter a bastard like trump.

Leader worth a single shit knows that and, even if they are narcissistic little nutjobs, gives other powers room to at least maintain the facade of personal sovereignty and national dignity. Unfortunately, we get to deal with trump.

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