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... where I live, the suggestion still stands, you just might want to swing a house coat/bath robe/trench coat, too. Most of winter is still no pants time.

Temperature wise, anyway. The flora and fauna have contributing positions on the subject that impact the state of nopan.

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I think the most "fun" thing about that one is that it's apparently getting people to remember a time hitler's lot gassed some russians. So, like. Even if you do give that the gas chambers don't count (so you can whatabout the US or whatever), Spicer's still wrong, the people that's saying he's technically right look like they're wrong, all of it's just a kinda', "Yeah, no, no, y'dun fucked up." The timing is just icing on the metaphorical cake.

E: And now that I think about it a lil', that the target for that use was russian troops, of all things, given this particular situation, is definitely some kind of thing. What kind, I'm not sure, but some kind.

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Or just go without. Shorts of some sort, good pair of boxers, particularly svelte set of swim trunks, that sort of thing.

Some kind of mesh might work, too. I keep forgetting to check if there's, like... mosquito netting pants. If not, someone needs to get on that.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 11, 2017, 07:04:38 pm »
At least twice the creature MSH is, that's what.

... you can always check their profile, though. Jifo hasn't posted much over the years.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 11, 2017, 06:23:26 pm »
Huh. Login time got me to check the rankings for the first time in a while. Pretty sure I've gone up one or two. Seem to recall it was either 8th or 10th, last I checked, and apparently it's hit 6th.

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No, the situation has changed in Syria. ISIS, Syria Assad the Kurds have settled out into geographic regions. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22798391 [snip]
Yeah, I'd bet 20 without hesitation less than a third of those polled is aware of any of that. Almost certainly significantly less. So... no. So far as the US electorate is concerned, the situation is largely identical.

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In any case, the strike has at least given us a fun little thing for anyone who wants to make the claim that inclination towards partisanship is roughly equal between the party bases, at the absolute least in regards to certain military matters. Apparently dem support for syrian intervention basically hasn't moved between 2013 and 2017, despite the syrian situation being largely identical and the political situation stateside being rather different. Meanwhile, GOP support has... shifted. Just a bit.

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I am at a loss regarding Spicer, are you defending Hitler? Is this some sort of reverse-triple-mangan-Godwin shit?

DOES SEAN SPICER NOT KNOW WHO HITLER WAS?
He definitely forgot what gas chambers were, if nothing else.

Kinda' just looks like him or whoever's writing his script just doesn't care what he says. Maybe they rigged up some kind of chatbot and hooked it up to a printer. Sad thing is I can't quite pin down whether that would end up being more or less consistent and/or coherent.

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... y'know, I think it's been a bit since I noticed someone busting out the "it's not literal murder so you shouldn't care" argument. Weird thing to remember not running into for a time, now that I think about it.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 11, 2017, 10:40:22 am »
Does anybody else remember NW_Kohaku from his great suggestion threads?
Remember the name, not the threads. Been a while since I really poked around anywhere but GD and OG, though, heh.

... and by while, I mean probably since before you joined. Eh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 11, 2017, 08:37:19 am »
I'unno, it doesn't really seem like the overall demographics have changed much. There were old folks floating around years back and whatnot, and there's plenty of youngins floating around now. If there's a difference so far as political lean goes, it's probably just because there's a few conservative leaning folks that finally managed to figure out how to keep from getting banned, whereas most of the time I've been loitering around, that lot had a fair bit of trouble managing that. Maybe the energy level in general has dropped, too. Several of the folks that were more into things, at least here in GD, have cut back on posting or stopped outright for one reason or another.

... which, so far as the political and cultural stuff goes, I can kinda' understand (even beyond poster specific particulars). Last handful of years have been fucking exhausting.

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Yeah, along those lines. Most of the takeaway should just be that I'm pretty damn doubtful, if you're going to try to justify this stuff with international law, that the US was actually in the clear. It's probably approaching sketchy even by constitutional powers, given the nature of our previous relation with syria and the nature of the respective transgression(s).

I'd lay very good odds it would have been relatively trivial to get plainly in the free and clear -- obama came close, and that was with a congress that was significantly more hostile to him in particular doing it -- mind you (and you probably wouldn't have found me arguing against, in that case), but, well. That's not what happened.

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Tear gas and shit seems to be caught by (at least some) wartime provisions, but not by civilian protections. E: As an example. In any case, most of what I've been saying is just that there's rather little support for carte blanche retaliation, and that international courts seem to have been notably recalcitrant when it comes to internal conflicts. Not terribly much more.

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The fact that soldiers and civilians appear to have different protections is fucked up, is what I'm saying, smj. That it's apparently not clear that intervention for gassed civilians is mandated or clearly supported by international law, is fucked up.

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Yeah max, we're a fair chunk of why the laws are like that, it seems. Probably one of the more common violators, too, which to all appearances has been exactly what we wanted.

And nah, there's like a half dozen different treaties that address CW in one way or another. And again, the one that covers production does, in fact, stipulate how violations of that in particular are to be addressed. There's not much in the way of limitations on what the conclusion is, but there does appear to be some on what to do leading up to that conclusion. And to all appearances, so far as I've been able to tell, the rest of been conspicuously and consistently interpreted to address the protections given soldiers and non-soldiers differently.

Though no, what my posts amount to is noting that the CW laws apparently can't be used to justify the sort of "enforcement" this particular air strike is being called. If you can't tell by my repeated statements that it's fucked up, I'm not claiming that's a particularly desirable state of things. Though I'll admit I'm not exactly opposed to having more explicit controls on what comes before it.

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