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Time to be the Devil's Advocate: On the other hand, if everything you said was there forever, we'd might do the impossible and force people to actually think before talking. You take for granted reasons to delete, but if there was no delete there would be fewer reasons to.

That flies completely in the face of reality, heh. Everything you say is already close enough to forever it only barely makes a difference, and that doesn't stop many people. Even folks that get burned for saying stupid shit only occasionally actually edit or delete what they said, and/or keep themselves under control in the future.

Will say, a casual thought is that the photoshopping et al community would probably expand massively under the considered conditions, and turn even more malicious than it already is. If people get used to a situation where claims of editing and whatnot isn't a thing -- where internet communication is more or less static into perpetuity -- they're probably going to end up less suspicious of any one bit of communication, and at the least no more likely to double check sources and context than they already are (which isn't very likely to begin with). Means content fabrication and distorting-via-decontextualization becomes that much easier to get away with.

... those weren't even remotely my experience with TR or RE. RE was a mess to move, aim, or hit anything, and from what I recall even the ruddy menus were a PitA. Thing was basically concentrated how-to-not-design-3D-controls. If running past enemies was easy in that, it had to have been the single thing that was :V

TR may have been an issue of it being the PC version, but croft had more or less the maneuverability of a concrete encased whale. There was nothing precise about any of it, heh. Combat was miserable, platforming was miserable, I vaguely remember friggin' jumping being a multi-button affair, or some kind of mess related to it. Spent a fair chunk of time on both of 'em because of availability issues, but I never got particularly far 'cause most of my time was wrestling with the controls and dying because it it.

Meanwhile I distinctly remember basically performing acrobatics with backflips and wall jumps with M64, heh. Times you kinda' slid off stuff, too, but it was pretty decent. Actually managed a full star win, too.

... why lucky? Loitering around while all this stuff has happened (tech/game/internet wise) has been one of the highlights of the last few decades. You don't get to live through the unprecedentedly rapid development of entire new artstyles... basically ever. Lot of the rest of it's been kinda' shit but the transformations and developments when it comes to that kind of thing have been goddamn amazing to live beside.

You take away my ability to fix spelling and grammar errors and you may just drive me to violence. Force me to double post and there stops being a may involved :V

Still haven't gotten around to looking at it, tbh. Be mildly surprised if he can manage anything resembling teleprompted for very long, though.

Oh, I want to agree.  So very badly.  But I still remember the week leading up to election day where it seemed obvious that Trump not only was going to lose, but was going to lose badly.

The news was definitely running with that message, in complete defiance of polling information and basic journalism, but those fuckers were fuckers the whole goddamn campaign cycle. I remember a similar thing, and then kenning just how much those bastards can all go right to hell shortly thereafter. What could be taken from that period was FTFE, not anything about the nature of the election or trump's staying power.

... I'm actually not finding any mention of having to dry brakes, even from twenty or thirty years ago. Can't recall older relatives talking about it, either. Closest to it is wanting to after driving through water or very heavy rain, and even that's kinda' iffy. Gods know I've been in cars that drove through low level floodwaters before and no one mentioned the need or did anything but kept on driving.

There's auto-drying mechanisms for that nowadays, though, have been for a while, and mostly aren't needed to begin with. You can still do it more or less manually, too. Not something that comes up often.

When exactly did you watch this mentioned video, anyway?

KeeperRL's ASCII version is actually free and I think mostly/entirely up to date. If you're wondering about it as a purchase, you probably want to give that a whirl. S'on the game's actual website, somewhere or another. Vis a vis comparison, it's smaller focused than DF with less moving parts and (much) less focus on the little stories type thing that is DF's core, but it's also much less hands off with stuff like combat, and involves raiding and whatnot. It's definitely pretty dungeon keeper-y, with some nice added touches. Fairly enjoyable, imo.

Stardew is indeed very much not like DF -- it's a pretty direct spiritual descendent of the Harvest Moon (Well, more directly the Rune Factory stuff) series, not anything resembling DF's style of gameplay. About the only similarities are the story focus (though of a rather different nature from DF's procedural nature) and the fact that farming, fighting, and familymaking are involved. I'd personally recommend it, particularly if you can get it on the cheap, but if you're looking for something similar to DF it very much isn't it. It's also not like terraria pretty much at all, though. More the Rune Factory stuff, harvest moon with a dash of secret of mana (more like evermore, really, iirc) style ARPG combat (just sans multiplayer).

Both of 'em are either a lot more personal/give the player more direct control of a smaller number of critters than DF's primary mode, or more involved than its adventure mode. They both do lots different and offer stuff DF doesn't just by dint of being pretty much entirely different in regards to genre and design ethos, more than I'm willing to attempt to summarize with any more depth than the above, when I've only been awake like ten minutes.

Rimworld and prison architect I haven't played, heh. People seem to like 'em a fair bit, though, and PA's recently-ish started seeing some decent sales, if I'm not mistaken.

All that said, near as I can recall every one of the mentioned games have dedicated threads here in OG, and they've also got LPs floating around youtube with varying degrees of prolificness. If you're actually on the fence/tightly restricted about which of the four to get involved with, you probably want to watch some gameplay vids (maybe not with stardew, since it actually has non-procedural story bits and you can be spoiled if you care about that sort of thing, but the rest don't really have that issue) and skim over the threads in question a bit, see if what folks are talking about appeals to you.

It... it was more or less completely at odds with everything pttg'd been talking about previously (and almost the entirety of the critter's previous posting history), and a pretty direct mockery of the "weaken the EPA over fairly minor inconvenience" position being presented/flanderized. Also a blatantly false caricature of enviro science folks. Not sure how it didn't come off as sarcasm...

E: Though I guess that means it's time for the biannual* reminder of the sarcasm font. Georgia. Love it, live it, regularly forget it exists. Just like the state, except lovable and livable.

*Disclaimer: Not actually biannual.